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World's cleanest diesel E 320 BLUETEC to be introduced in the USA in fall '06
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Posted 6/7/2006 1:02 AM
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World's cleanest diesel E 320 BLUETEC to be introduced in the USA in fall '06

It's based on a DeNOx storage catalytic converter. SCR with Adblue will follow in 2-3 years for larger vehicles. "BLUETEC is the new blueprint for the cleanest diesels in the world," says Dr. Dieter Zetsche, Chairman of DaimlerChrysler and Head of the Mercedes Car Group.

"And while BLUETEC was developed by Mercedes-Benz, it won't be exclusive to Mercedes-Benz. Of course, we'll share this technology with the Chrysler Group." Two different Bluetec systems were shown, both with the new 3.0 liter V6 turbodiesel. In the E320 Bluetec a DeNOx catalytic converter, particle filter and SCR catalyst are used whereas in the Vision GL320 Bluetec an AdBlue urea solution is injected into the exhaust behind the particle filter.




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Posted 6/7/2006 1:03 AM
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BLUETEC



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Posted 6/7/2006 1:06 AM
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Posted 6/7/2006 11:46 AM
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Re: World's cleanest diesel E 320 BLUETEC to be introduced in the USA in fall '06

Thats cool! When I went to the auto show in NYC, all the Mercedes benz where CDI. They had a model of the blue tec diesel. It was great.
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Posted 6/7/2006 12:37 PM
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Re: World's cleanest diesel E 320 BLUETEC to be introduced in the USA in fall '06

sounds like alot of fun!
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RE: World's cleanest diesel E 320 BLUETEC to be introduced in the USA in fall '06

mmmmm....urea.
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Posted 6/13/2006 8:26 PM
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Re: World's cleanest diesel E 320 BLUETEC to be introduced in the USA in fall '06

u know what urea is? exactly?

then share with us please, if so............
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Re: World's cleanest diesel E 320 BLUETEC to be introduced in the USA in fall '06

Sounds like an alternative fuel?
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Re: World's cleanest diesel E 320 BLUETEC to be introduced in the USA in fall '06

this may be the chemical name of the additive gas that the inject into the exhaust.....but i am not sure...........i shall research it some more.........
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RE: World's cleanest diesel E 320 BLUETEC to be introduced in the USA in fall '06

Urea is what it sounds like...a derivative of urine! I believe it is fish urine or something like that if I remember correctly..

 On one of the other vision prototype vehicles, they found by injecting tiny amounts into the exhaust, it reduces emissions notably. Not a lot is required, and it is cheap, so refill of your "pisstank" would be part of the service intervals on Mercedes-Benz vehicles.

 Pretty cool



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RE: World's cleanest diesel E 320 BLUETEC to be introduced in the USA in fall '06

Your car will smell like a bath room realy bad... Thats horrible!
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Re: World's cleanest diesel E 320 BLUETEC to be introduced in the USA in fall '06

lol
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Urea is an organic compound of carbon, nitrogen, oxygen and hydrogen, with the formula CON2H4 or (NH2)2CO.
The individual atoms of urea come from carbon dioxide, water, aspartate and ammonia in a metabolic pathway known as the urea cycle, an anabolic process. This expenditure of energy is necessary because ammonia, a common metabolic waste product, is toxic and must be neutralized. Urea production occurs in the liver and is under the regulatory control of N-acetylglutamate.

Most organisms have to deal with the excretion of nitrogen waste originating from protein and amino acid catabolism. In aquatic organisms the most common form of nitrogen waste is ammonia , while land-dwelling organisms developed ways to convert the toxic ammonia to either urea or uric acid. Generally, birds and saurian reptiles excrete uric acid, while the remaining species, including mammals, excrete urea. Remarkably, tadpoles excrete ammonia, and shift to urea production during metamorphosis.
Urea is produced commercially from synthetic ammonia and carbon dioxide. Urea can be produced as prills, granules, flakes, pellets, crystals and solutions.

More than 90% of world production is destined for use as a fertilizer. Urea has the highest nitrogen content of all solid nitrogeneous fertilizers in common use. (46.4%N.) It therefore has the lowest transportation costs per unit of nitrogen nutrient.

Urea is highly soluble in water and is therefore also very suitable for use in fertilizer solutions (in combination with ammonium nitrate: UAN), e.g. in “foliar feed’ fertilizers.

Solid urea is marketed as prills or granules. The advantage of prills is that in general they can be produced more cheaply than granules which, because of their narrower particle size distribution have an advantage over prills if applied mechanically to the soil. Properties such as impact strength, crushing strength and free-flowing behaviour are particularly important in product handling, storage and bulk transportation.

Production Urea is produced commercially from two raw materials, ammonia and carbon dioxide. Large quantities of carbon dioxide are produced during the manufacture of ammonia from coal or from hydrocarbons such as natural gas and petroleum derived raw materials. This allows direct synthesis of urea from these raw materials.

The production of urea from ammonia and carbon dioxide takes place in an equilibrium reaction, with incomplete conversion of the reactants. The various urea processes are characterized by the conditions under which urea formation takes place and the way in which unconverted reactants are further processed.

Unconverted reactants can be used for the manufacture of other products, for example ammonium nitrate or sulphate, or they can be recycled for complete conversion to urea in a total-recycle process.

Two principal reactions take place in the formation of urea from ammonia and carbon dioxide. The first reaction (2NH3 + CO2 --> H2N-CO-NH3OH (ammonium carbamate)) is exothermic and the second reaction (H2N-CO-NH3OH (ammonium carbamate) --> H2N-CO-NH2 + H2O) is endothermic. Both reactions combined are exothermic.



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Re: World's cleanest diesel E 320 BLUETEC to be introduced in the USA in fall '06

excellent infos........thanks Roch!
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VW Touareg diesel 50 state legal

Looks like VW will sell the Touareg diesel in all 50 states. Why doesn't MBUSA do the same?

EDMUNDS: "A new set of more restrictive diesel emissions rules which go into effect January 1st of 2007 will force Volkswagen to restrict sales to 45 states next year, but for a period of about three months the Touareg TDI will be sold in all 50 states."

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/GeneralFuture/articleId=116017
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RE: VW Touareg diesel 50 state legal

Wolfgang - 7/23/2006 8:29 AM

Looks like VW will sell the Touareg diesel in all 50 states. Why doesn't MBUSA do the same?

EDMUNDS: "A new set of more restrictive diesel emissions rules which go into effect January 1st of 2007 will force Volkswagen to restrict sales to 45 states next year, but for a period of about three months the Touareg TDI will be sold in all 50 states."

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/GeneralFuture/articleId=116017



Really? Even in CA? I thought ALL new diesels were banned until 2008. I heard that from a VW dealer last year when I was test driving a Passat.

Edited by 1996_S500 7/23/2006 10:21 PM
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RE: VW Touareg diesel 50 state legal

1996_S500 - 7/23/2006 7:21 PM

Wolfgang - 7/23/2006 8:29 AM

Looks like VW will sell the Touareg diesel in all 50 states. Why doesn't MBUSA do the same?

EDMUNDS: "A new set of more restrictive diesel emissions rules which go into effect January 1st of 2007 will force Volkswagen to restrict sales to 45 states next year, but for a period of about three months the Touareg TDI will be sold in all 50 states."

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/GeneralFuture/articleId=116017



Really? Even in CA? I thought ALL new diesels were banned until 2008. I heard that from a VW dealer last year when I was test driving a Passat. :confuzed:


Even in California. The new diesels meet Tier 2 bin 8 and can thus be sold in California in 2006 but not starting January 1, 2007 at which time they need to meet Tier 2 bin 5. So there is a window of about three months, October, November and December of 2006 when the Touareg V10 diesel is 50 state legal. Not sure yet if MBUSA will do it. So far it looks like they opted out....

PS. I like the Touareg diesels but prefer the 5 cylinder manual version which I drive in Germany sometimes. The V10 Touareg has a fuel efficiency of combined city and highway of 19, which is about the same as my 1999 ML320 (great vehicle BTW ).



Edited by Wolfgang 7/23/2006 11:25 PM
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RE: VW Touareg diesel 50 state legal

Wolfgang - 7/23/2006 8:20 PM

1996_S500 - 7/23/2006 7:21 PM

Wolfgang - 7/23/2006 8:29 AM

Looks like VW will sell the Touareg diesel in all 50 states. Why doesn't MBUSA do the same?

EDMUNDS: "A new set of more restrictive diesel emissions rules which go into effect January 1st of 2007 will force Volkswagen to restrict sales to 45 states next year, but for a period of about three months the Touareg TDI will be sold in all 50 states."

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/GeneralFuture/articleId=116017



Really? Even in CA? I thought ALL new diesels were banned until 2008. I heard that from a VW dealer last year when I was test driving a Passat. :confuzed:


Even in California. The new diesels meet Tier 2 bin 8 and can thus be sold in California in 2006 but not starting January 1, 2007 at which time they need to meet Tier 2 bin 5. So there is a window of about three months, October, November and December of 2006 when the Touareg V10 diesel is 50 state legal. Not sure yet if MBUSA will do it. So far it looks like they opted out....

PS. I like the Touareg diesels but prefer the 5 cylinder manual version which I drive in Germany sometimes. The V10 Touareg has a fuel efficiency of combined city and highway of 19, which is about the same as my 1999 ML320 (great vehicle BTW ).



cool.

I like the Touareg a lot. I have driven the V8 version, and it was a really nice SUV. I liked it a lot. AND, it comes with Pirelli Scopion Tires Standard.

Although, some of them are built in Slovenia, Slovakia, and Hungary. More than 50% in Eastern Europe. Nevertheless, it is a VERY good car, and a V10 will make it a Monster!
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Posted 7/24/2006 12:25 AM
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Re: World's cleanest diesel E 320 BLUETEC to be introduced in the USA in fall '06

i'd take one.........
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