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BenzDieselTuner
Date registered: Dec 1899
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| POLL : Best Diesel Series of Production?
The running begins..... |
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jdc1244
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| RE: POLL : Best Diesel?
Hey, ‘Tuner,’ how’s it going? |
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1996_S500
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What about the W140? There was the S350 as well as the 300SD TurboDiesel W140's.  |
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jdc1244
Date registered: Dec 1899
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Yes, there was.
I’m reading the topic as best combo engine and chassis, which is why I selected the 126D. The 617 and 603 were the best engines DB made and the chassis was way ahead of its time. Although I love my 123 the 300 SD’s more modern chassis had was less prone to rust and leaking.
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1996_S500
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jdc1244 - 4/25/2006 7:46 PM
Yes, there was.
I’m reading the topic as best combo engine and chassis, which is why I selected the 126D. The 617 and 603 were the best engines DB made and the chassis was way ahead of its time. Although I love my 123 the 300 SD’s more modern chassis had was less prone to rust and leaking.
yup. I had a 1981 300 SD at one point, and I have to admit, it was very good. Very good car.
The W140 diesels supposedly weren't that good.
So.... my vote for the best diesel has to go for the W126. |
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jdc1244
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| RE: POLL : Best Diesel?
I believe the 3.5 L engine used in the 140s (and that replace the ill-fated engines in the 126 cars) had stronger rods and better intakes to avoid the bending problem. But I don’t think it was ever completely fixed. |
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Marsden
Classic MB
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Capital City USA
Vehicle(s): Mercedes-Benz
| RE: POLL : Best Diesel?
I love 126s but I really think the 300D was the best diesel anyone ever made.
They seem to last forever.
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jdc1244
Date registered: Dec 1899
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| RE: POLL : Best Diesel?
Yeah, 123Ds are tough cars but they never steer straight and leak like a sieve. |
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Ed Mclass
Expert
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Nashville, Tennessee
Vehicle(s): 1958 180a, 2010 GLK, 2000 G 500, 2005 SLK 350
Posts: 1215
| Re: POLL : Best Diesel?
Our list of diesels brings back a lot of happy memories. Only once have I had to call a tow truck for a diesel in 32 years of driving Mercedes!
1961 190db, Starter went bad and had to tow.
1983 240 D
1985 300 DT
1983 300 TD
1985 300 TD
1985 300 SD
1993 350 SD
1985 300 GD Gelandewagen
Only 2 of these vehicles are no longer on the road!
My favorite was the 1983 240 D. |
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BenzDieselTuner
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| RE: POLL : Best Diesel?
i guess i figured that the "new" diesels all would fall under the catagory of "any CDi"
i of course say that 123 is the best.....hmmmm....anyone could guess why?
lol
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1996_S500
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| RE: POLL : Best Diesel?
The W123 and the W126 are tied.  3 to 3 |
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BenzDieselTuner
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we may have to invite more members to come vote for the 123 side....  |
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Marsden
Classic MB
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Capital City USA
Vehicle(s): Mercedes-Benz
| RE: POLL : Best Diesel?
jdc1244 - 4/26/2006 1:16 AM Yeah, 123Ds are tough cars but they never steer straight and leak like a sieve. JDC, pardon my ignorance but do you mean engine oil leaks? Are they truly endemic to the tribe? I'd have to take this into consideration on my next 'semi-classic' purchase.... The crooked steering isn't so bad..might correct for my own  |
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GermanStar
Date registered: Dec 1899
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I voted w123, only because I believe that diesel aficionados have a special appreciation for simplicity, and the w123 represents simplicity above and beyond a w126. |
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GermanStar - 4/26/2006 11:25 AM
I voted w123, only because I believe that diesel aficionados have a special appreciation for simplicity, and the w123 represents simplicity above and beyond a w126.
that is true. The W123 has less things to go wrong, cuz the W126 is a little more advanced. |
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jdc1244
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Marsden - 4/26/2006 1:18 PM
jdc1244 - 4/26/2006 1:16 AM Yeah, 123Ds are tough cars but they never steer straight and leak like a sieve. JDC, pardon my ignorance but do you mean engine oil leaks? Are they truly endemic to the tribe? I'd have to take this into consideration on my next 'semi-classic' purchase.... The crooked steering isn't so bad..might correct for my own
Sorry, I should be more specific: the windshield seals leak, water in the footwells; the sunroof seals leak, water in your lap (the s/r drain holes can also clog); rear window leak, water in the trunk.
Yes, 126s can leak as well but windshield and sunroof leaking is very rare, they mostly have leaking rear windows.
Edited by jdc1244 4/26/2006 6:47 PM
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AsianML
Date registered: Dec 1899
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My vote is for "any CDI" because I just love all the torque they put out. |
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BenzDieselTuner
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victory IS and WILL REMAIN ours..........lol |
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AMG32
Date registered: Dec 1899
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| RE: POLL : Best Diesel?
Every MB Diesel is very good.
Main thing is how was maintained?
I have 190D 1984 900 000 Km.
Now I am swapping Engine on my 260E - Gas for Diesel 2.5L non turbo.
Newer Diesels are better - more power - new technology.
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Marsden
Classic MB
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Capital City USA
Vehicle(s): Mercedes-Benz
| RE: POLL : Best Diesel?
jdc1244 - 4/26/2006 6:47 PM Marsden - 4/26/2006 1:18 PM jdc1244 - 4/26/2006 1:16 AM Yeah, 123Ds are tough cars but they never steer straight and leak like a sieve. JDC, pardon my ignorance but do you mean engine oil leaks? Are they truly endemic to the tribe? I'd have to take this into consideration on my next 'semi-classic' purchase.... The crooked steering isn't so bad..might correct for my own Sorry, I should be more specific: the windshield seals leak, water in the footwells; the sunroof seals leak, water in your lap (the s/r drain holes can also clog ); rear window leak, water in the trunk. Yes, 126s can leak as well but windshield and sunroof leaking is very rare, they mostly have leaking rear windows. Oh wow... that's sobering. Reminds me of my old Jaguar! Thanks I think....
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