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| Honda to join the clean diesel bandwagon
Within three years Honda plans to introduce a clean 4 cylinder diesel in the US market meeting Tier II bin 5 limits. A V6 is also planned. Its suspected they'll use a plasma NOx storage catalyst which is also being researched at ArvinMeritor, GM/Delphi and Caterpillar among others.
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| Re: Honda to join the clean diesel bandwagon
anyone gonna buy one, to test out how good they are?
i hope they are cheap and affordable, like gas hondas.......... |
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Dieselburns
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| Re: Honda to join the clean diesel bandwagon
I like the new honda fit they have today! The car is perfect to me, and every part of that car is cool and flows with the car, I wish I can buy one! Maybe I like to try other diesel then mercedes in the near future! Maybe a Peugeot
turbo diesel in the near future, I hear there better then mercedes! Plus they look mean!!!!  |
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enjoy i guess......... |
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Boneheaddoctor
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| Re: Honda to join the clean diesel bandwagon
Wonder if its going to be a reliable engine. Time will tell. |
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Dieselburns
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| Re: Honda to join the clean diesel bandwagon
Well you should read up on Japan's diesel engine cars! There way more advanced remeber. I will like to buy one, a Mitsubishi would be nice the FUSO |
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Fuso ???????? |
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Ed Mclass
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| Re: Honda to join the clean diesel bandwagon
Chrysler announced that for 2007 the JEEP Cherokee Limited and the Commander models will have a Mercedes-Benz Diesel engine option. |
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Awesome............
i hope that alot of americans make use of this option.......... |
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I like the Diesel idea than the IMA Hybrid system they currently use. |
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Diesels will always remain the best in my book........... |
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| Dodge to join clean diesel bandwagon
Dodge diesels will get high-tech emission gear
Richard Truett | Automotive News | | Automotive News / July 6, 2006 - 6:00 am
DETROIT - Add Dodge to the list of car companies planning to equip diesel-powered trucks with an expensive emissions system to meet stringent federal regulations that take effect Jan. 1.
Frank Klegon, the Chrysler group's executive vice president for product development, said heavy-duty diesel Rams sold next year will have a diesel particulate filter and oxides of nitrogen adsorber. The two items in the exhaust system reduce the amount of oxides of nitrogen, a precursor to smog, and soot, a suspected cause of cancer.
Dodge plans to make a running change during the model year. Ram diesels built before Jan. 1 will have the same emissions system as 2006 models. Starting in January, the Ram will have the new system - and probably a higher price.
The particulate filter, which contains precious metals, would likely cost an automaker $600 to $800, according to one supplier familiar with diesel truck emissions systems.
Following suit
General Motors, Ford Motor Co. and Dodge are revamping their diesel pickups to meet the EPA regulations. All the trucks will have the new diesel particulate filters.
Putting the filter on the engines in today's diesel trucks would cause a drop in performance and economy. The particulate filter forces the engine to work harder to push the exhaust through to the tailpipes.
Ford plans to get around that by dropping its current 6.0-liter diesel and replacing it with a 6.4-liter V-8 that uses piezo electric fuel injectors to control emissions and to boost performance.
GM and Dodge could follow suit with bigger engines to offset the loss in performance.
GM plans to announce major changes to its heavy-duty diesel trucks on Aug. 24. It has said the 2007 models will get several big upgrades, including a new variable geometry turbocharger, new exhaust gas recirculation system and other enhancements.
Dodge plans to reveal its plans for the Ram diesel engine in September.
"The Ram requires an all-new emissions control system and significant changes to the engine," said Klegon. But the diesel Ram will not use DaimlerChrysler's Bluetec diesel emissions technology, since the engine will be designed and built by Cummins Inc.
Battle of the trucks
Dodge, GM and Ford officials would not talk about prices or power ratings for 2007 model trucks. But the three are in a battle for diesel truck bragging rights and have been trumping each other for the last five years with bigger and more powerful engines.
"Pricing is the lead responsibility of marketing," said Klegon. "It'll be a concern. When we get a little closer to market, probably around the end of the third quarter, we'll talk about pricing," he said at the recent 2007 product preview here.
Chrysler sells about 160,000 heavy-duty Ram trucks each year, and 80 percent are equipped with diesel engines, said Chrysler spokesman Colin McBean.
Ford plans a short year for the 2007 Super Duty trucks. A revamped model coming early in 2007 will be sold as a 2008 model. Ford will build the 2007 trucks with carryover 2006 6.0-liter diesels before switching to the new 6.4-liter engine with piezo injectors for the 2008 model. GM likely will follow a similar plan.
The reason is diesel fuel.
Shipments of low-sulfur diesel fuel started flowing through the nation's pipelines June 1. The new fuel, which has about 15 parts per million of sulfur, replaces today's fuel, which carries 500 parts per million of sulfur. By January, all the old high-sulfur fuel should be out of the distribution system.
Trucks with diesel particulate filters can't tolerate diesel fuel with high sulfur content.
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Wolfgang
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| RE: Honda to join the clean diesel bandwagon
BenzDieselTuner - 6/6/2006 9:48 PM
Within three years Honda plans to introduce a clean 4 cylinder diesel in the US market meeting Tier II bin 5 limits. A V6 is also planned. Its suspected they'll use a plasma NOx storage catalyst which is also being researched at ArvinMeritor, GM/Delphi and Caterpillar among others.
5/17/2006
BenzDieselTuner, what's the latest on the OM651??? Any rumors?  |
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well, the OM642 is the V6, so would that be the V-8 ..........? |
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BenzDieselTuner - 7/8/2006 4:32 AM
well, the OM642 is the V6, so would that be the V-8 ..........?
It's supposed to be the four cylinder diesel world engine........
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BenzDieselTuner
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well, i came across this in the GLK article.............
The aggregate with the internal contraction OM651 is a world engine suited for all company marks. As the strongest version at the end of of 2009 a 2,4-Liter-Vierzylinder with 250 HP might go into series.
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