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Ace31
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Date registered: May 2009
Location: Modena - Italy
Vehicle(s): 93' 300 GE
Posts: 203
| Re: New J.W Speaker 8700 LED Headlights.
That G looks great.. would be interesting to know something about their reliability in off-road drive,
but they seem appropriate to an heavy use and less brittle than xenon lights |
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AGuess
Elite Veteran
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Holly Springs NC
Vehicle(s): 93 500GE, 93 500GE, 2002 G500
Posts: 717
| Re: New J.W Speaker 8700 LED Headlights.
I have not used them off road, however they are US Military Spec, and I would expect they use them off road. These are heavy, well made lights.
FYI.
If anyone is interested in these. I purchased them at:
The Chrome Shop
125 Hwy 167 North
Bald Knob, AR 72010
Phone: (501) 724-8789
Mr. Josh Foster is the owner.
He has them drop shipped from J.W. Speaker Corporation.
Part number 0544001. 8700-12/24V Led Hi.Low DOT Headlamp. |
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H1LM002G55
Expert
Date registered: Mar 2010
Location: S Florida / Geneva / Jeddah
Vehicle(s): 500 GE, G55, LM002, H1
Posts: 1796
| Re: New J.W Speaker 8700 LED Headlights.
FYI-
These are light years ahead of the LED Trucklite Headlamps.
The Trucklite Lamps suck.
And these are only a tiny bit more money.
The beam dispersion is incredible on these. |
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Lunde73
New user
Date registered: Jan 2012
Location: Norway
Vehicle(s): 2005 G400CDI, 1988 500SEC
Posts: 3
| Re: New J.W Speaker 8700 LED Headlights.
Hello AGuess.
I'm a new member on this forum, but not new to G-class. The speaker 8700 lights looks good, and I'm considering an upgrade as well. Hopefully you could give me some advice please?
You changed to speaker 8700 led lights in your two 1995 500GE's. You mention that the original lights in these cars were significantly worse than the original lights in your G500 2002. If you compare the speaker lights with the original lights in the G500 2002, are the speaker lights still much better? My G is a 2005 and the lights should be comparable to your G500.
Also, do you know if these lights produce any error codes in the newer G's, as the current draw must be considerably less than original lights?
Thanks
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AGuess
Elite Veteran
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Holly Springs NC
Vehicle(s): 93 500GE, 93 500GE, 2002 G500
Posts: 717
| Re: New J.W Speaker 8700 LED Headlights.
Hi Lunde73,
I can not answer the question regarding error codes in the newer G.
Yes, I expect that the JW Speaker 8700 lights pull less amps then the OEM lights, but I can not tell you how much, etc.
They are a huge improvement over the OEM European lights and the standard US DOT style light's that were in my two 93 500GE's.
Allow me to put my 2002 G500 and one of the 93 500GE's side by side and compare them. I will try to do that tonight and take some pictures to give you a better comparison. |
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Lunde73
New user
Date registered: Jan 2012
Location: Norway
Vehicle(s): 2005 G400CDI, 1988 500SEC
Posts: 3
| Re: New J.W Speaker 8700 LED Headlights.
Thank you AGuess.
A comparison would be fantastic.
I think I will e-mail J.W. Speaker Corporation and ask if they have any knowledge on error codes. Maybe they have received some feedback from other G-class owners?
I read that some had problems with error codes when they upgraded to xenon lamps, but switching the software setting in the car to xenon using the STAR diagnostic interface/software apparently fixed this. LED is of course something else though.
Thanks again.
Lunde |
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AGuess
Elite Veteran
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Holly Springs NC
Vehicle(s): 93 500GE, 93 500GE, 2002 G500
Posts: 717
| Re: New J.W Speaker 8700 LED Headlights.
I parked my 2002 G500 with factory xenon lamps next to my 93 500GE with the JW Speaker LED headlights tonight. They are lined up side by side.
It is hard to see from the pictures, but both set's are very good. The 2002 lights are yellow in color while the LED lights are white.
I like the white light better, it is hard to tell which project farther.
What do you think?
Edited by AGuess 1/30/2012 8:51 PM
 (2002 OEM Headlights on left, JW Speaker LED on Right.jpg)
 (2002 OEM Headlight low beam.jpg)
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 (2002 OEM Headlight High Beam.jpg)
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2002 OEM Headlight low beam.jpg (174KB - 1 downloads)
JW Speaker LED Headliight low beam.jpg (44KB - 1 downloads)
2002 OEM Headlight High Beam.jpg (41KB - 0 downloads)
JW Speaker LED Headlight High Beam.jpg (44KB - 1 downloads)
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H1LM002G55
Expert
Date registered: Mar 2010
Location: S Florida / Geneva / Jeddah
Vehicle(s): 500 GE, G55, LM002, H1
Posts: 1796
| Re: New J.W Speaker 8700 LED Headlights.
Impressive. |
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mre
Veteran
Date registered: Dec 2006
Location: Estonia
Vehicle(s): 463 300GE ´91
Posts: 169
| Re: New J.W Speaker 8700 LED Headlights.
Shouldn't the left side in front of you stay dark?
Looks like LED-s will blind oncoming drivers. |
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DUTCH
Administrator Doppelgänger
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: US, GA, Atlanta
Vehicle(s): 2015 Audi Q7 3.0 TDI,2018 Sprinter
Posts: 9963
| Re: New J.W Speaker 8700 LED Headlights.
AGuess - 1/30/2012 8:41 PM
I parked my 2002 G500 with factory xenon lamps next to my 93 500GE with the JW Speaker LED headlights tonight. They are lined up side by side.
It is hard to see from the pictures, but both set's are very good. The 2002 lights are yellow in color while the LED lights are white.
I like the white light better, it is hard to tell which project farther.
What do you think?
Interesting shots. Same ISO, shutter speed and f-stop on all? |
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zimm
Elite Veteran
Date registered: Feb 2010
Location: pittsburgh
Vehicle(s): lx470, 76 fj40, 72fj40, 96 gelandewagen g320.
Posts: 788
| RE: New J.W Speaker 8700 LED Headlights.
i noticed on the speaker sight they are made in left hand/right hand versions. from the light on the left hand side of the shot, did you get the correct version?
perhaps the car want parked exactly the same. |
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AGuess
Elite Veteran
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Holly Springs NC
Vehicle(s): 93 500GE, 93 500GE, 2002 G500
Posts: 717
| Re: New J.W Speaker 8700 LED Headlights.
I parked the two G's in my driveway, next to each other, lined up even as though ready to drag race.
The driveway has a slight curve in it as it approaches the street, which would explain the slight difference in picture placement.
I was never told by either JW Speaker Corp or the chrome Shop who sold them to me that there is a left and right side light.
There was nothing indicating left or right side light when received and I just installed them.
I will check into that, because if I have a left and right side light I want to make sure they are correct.
The LED lights were then checked by a NC State inspection station to ensure they are aligned correctly.
I have never had another driver flash at me, so I don't think we are blinding anyone.
I took all photo's with my cell phone and I stood in front of the G with my leg's pressing against the bumper and my back lined up with the silver star in the grill. I was trying to center myself. Nothing scientific here. Just some comparison shots as requested.
That's all I can tell you about these lights. I like them.
AGuess |
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Lunde73
New user
Date registered: Jan 2012
Location: Norway
Vehicle(s): 2005 G400CDI, 1988 500SEC
Posts: 3
| Re: New J.W Speaker 8700 LED Headlights.
AGuess, thank you for the comparison photos.
Very impressive indeed, the speaker lights seem to illuminate more than the OEM lights IMO seeing the pictures
Does the 2002 model have xenon lights; mine has the incandescent H4 bulb?
I'll try to find out if error codes are an issue.
Thanks
Lunde |
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DUTCH
Administrator Doppelgänger
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: US, GA, Atlanta
Vehicle(s): 2015 Audi Q7 3.0 TDI,2018 Sprinter
Posts: 9963
| Left & Right
AGuess - 1/31/2012 12:46 PM
I was never told by either JW Speaker Corp or the chrome Shop who sold them to me that there is a left and right side light.
There was nothing indicating left or right side light when received and I just installed them.
I will check into that, because if I have a left and right side light I want to make sure they are correct.
AGuess
That doesn't refer to the individual lights on which side of the car. It refers to whether the vehicle is a Left Hand Drive or Right Hand Drive vehicle, as in UK and some other parts of the world vs the US, continental Europe and other parts of the world.
The lights for a vehicle driven on the right side of the road - e.g. LHD as in the US - have to have a light pattern that is different from a RHD vehicle which drives on the left side of the road. |
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ewalberg
Expert
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Past: San Francisco. Present: Germany
Vehicle(s): 2000 g500
Posts: 1887
| Re: New J.W Speaker 8700 LED Headlights.
is it a glass housing? Regardless, considering the cost, i'd suggest buying some paint protection film straight away to keep them from getting chipped/cracked/damaged. They sell a little thicker stuff for things like headlights... it reminds me i need to do this for the 2002 style headlights i have waiting to drop in. |
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AGuess
Elite Veteran
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Holly Springs NC
Vehicle(s): 93 500GE, 93 500GE, 2002 G500
Posts: 717
| Re: New J.W Speaker 8700 LED Headlights.
sorry, I can't really say if they are xeon or H-4 bulbs, what ever was stock in a 2002 G500. I should not have said xeon.
It appears that the housing on the LED light's are a very hard plastic, not glass. |
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zimm
Elite Veteran
Date registered: Feb 2010
Location: pittsburgh
Vehicle(s): lx470, 76 fj40, 72fj40, 96 gelandewagen g320.
Posts: 788
| Re: New J.W Speaker 8700 LED Headlights.
AGuess - 2/1/2012 11:09 AM
sorry, I can't really say if they are xeon or H-4 bulbs, what ever was stock in a 2002 G500. I should not have said xeon.
It appears that the housing on the LED light's are a very hard plastic, not glass.
in that case, definitely get a film protection. plastic wont break or chip, but it sandblasts easy. |
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zimm
Elite Veteran
Date registered: Feb 2010
Location: pittsburgh
Vehicle(s): lx470, 76 fj40, 72fj40, 96 gelandewagen g320.
Posts: 788
| Re: New J.W Speaker 8700 LED Headlights.
AGuess - 1/31/2012 12:46 PM
I parked the two G's in my driveway, next to each other, lined up even as though ready to drag race.
The driveway has a slight curve in it as it approaches the street, which would explain the slight difference in picture placement.
I was never told by either JW Speaker Corp or the chrome Shop who sold them to me that there is a left and right side light.
There was nothing indicating left or right side light when received and I just installed them.
I will check into that, because if I have a left and right side light I want to make sure they are correct.
The LED lights were then checked by a NC State inspection station to ensure they are aligned correctly.
I have never had another driver flash at me, so I don't think we are blinding anyone.
I took all photo's with my cell phone and I stood in front of the G with my leg's pressing against the bumper and my back lined up with the silver star in the grill. I was trying to center myself. Nothing scientific here. Just some comparison shots as requested.
That's all I can tell you about these lights. I like them.
AGuess
did you look into whether or not you received the proper lights, or if it was just a matter of adjustment? i have the truck ripped apart and it looks like its time to change the headlamp wiring, so i may be picking these up.
thanks. |
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kechy
Member
Date registered: Jul 2010
Location: Chicago, IL
Vehicle(s): '04 G500
Posts: 8
| Re: New J.W Speaker 8700 LED Headlights.
Does it look like Jeep put these lights in a Beijing-bound Wrangler concept?
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/04/06/chrysler-preparing-two-chinese-i... |
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AGuess
Elite Veteran
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Holly Springs NC
Vehicle(s): 93 500GE, 93 500GE, 2002 G500
Posts: 717
| Re: New J.W Speaker 8700 LED Headlights.
Yes, it looks just like them on the Jeep concept.
Yes, I received the correct lights, they just have to put on a light alignment machine like any head light.
They still work great.
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