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| Razon Date registered: Jul 2008 Location: Vancouver, BC Vehicle(s): 1986 280ge Cabrio, 617A, 5sp manual  | ||
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| AlanMcR Expert Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: US, CA, Los Altos Vehicle(s): G300DT E300DT 230SL Posts: 3500  | ||
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| DesertStar Expert Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: San Diego, CA USA Vehicle(s): 85-280GE/95-G320/08-G500 Posts: 2156 | RE: Clarification from all previous respondents please hipine - 9/6/2012 3:09 PM I notice in some replies above people talking about setting a "dial" or setting to "soft" or "medium." Looking at Koni's on-line information it seems like the 82xx series SPX shocks like I have use an adjustment sequence that I wouldn't refer to as a "dial", but more the way ONE described doing his. It got me wondering if we all have the same shocks, or if the valving that's in AMZ, Dia, and Alan's shocks might be different from what's in mine and ONE's. Please look at this page: http://www.koni-na.com/adjustment.cfm Is everyone using the adjustment procedure in the center of the page? -Dave G. Dave, I pulled my receipts and purchased the Koni 8240-1195 SPX and the 8240 1197 SPX. The adjustments are as described in the link you posted that relate to the 8240 series. My adjustments/settings mirrors that of Alan...which is who I benchmarked my setting to.
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hipine Date registered: Jul 2006 Location: US, CO, Bailey Vehicle(s): 460 1980 280GE w. 617A  | ||
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| hipine Date registered: Jul 2006 Location: US, CO, Bailey Vehicle(s): 460 1980 280GE w. 617A | ||
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| hipine Date registered: Jul 2006 Location: US, CO, Bailey Vehicle(s): 460 1980 280GE w. 617A | Re: Changing to Koni SPX front shocks ONE - 9/6/2012 4:22 PM ...I could only find a full soft spot where the travel starts - but never an end point or click for full hard - were you able to detect any clicks - stop?... Yeah there was definitely about 2&1/2 turns between the start and stop point. My goal was to set to mid point. So I went through the whole travel, then back to the beginning and out 1/2 of the total (about 1&1/4 turns). This time I think I might go out only say 1/2 a turn. I decided for some reason I'm not comfy with them being right against the full soft stop, I don't know why. I can also say that over the last 300,000 miles or so I've gotten comfortable with the truck having what many people would consider a lot of body lean in cornering, etc in the interests of having the shocks pretty soft. Not least of all because the dirt road I live on is always heavily washboarded so dealing with that effectively is just as big a concern as on-tarred-road "handling" which is a generous term for what my truck does.  -Dave G. | |
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| hipine Date registered: Jul 2006 Location: US, CO, Bailey Vehicle(s): 460 1980 280GE w. 617A | ||
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| 512bbi Expert Date registered: Jan 2007 Location: North western US and Europe Vehicle(s): 05G55kge,Range rover classic,clk55amg,ML 430 Posts: 1313  | Re: Changing to Koni SPX front shocks ONE - 9/6/2012 4:22 PM hipine - 9/6/2012 5:58 PM Thanks for sharing. That's good info. I set mine to the mid-point of the adjustment travel starting from full soft. Maybe I should have gone with AMZ's original advice to set them full soft. I might have to drive it around a little as it is then pull them and set them full soft and see how that is. We'll see.... -Dave G. I had them at full soft at first and felt it was too bouncy. However I have much bigger tires so that might have a big impact. I could only find a full soft spot where the travel starts - but never an end point or click for full hard - were you able to detect any clicks - stop? I am about to pull them out again as I suspect that my right front is much softer then my left front. Having had to drive with the shot shocks for quiet a few more days - it seems that I had killed my steering shock as well - naturally getting horrific wobble. When I installed the new replacement SPX the wobble was gone. However after the 2 hour shake down run - wobble is coming back  If your shocks wear out you will get more vibes from your steering because of the fact the front red soft springs you run will allow much more movement of thrust angle changes on your front axle. Your larger wide tires are heavy so you need much more compression forces from your shocks to control your extra unsprung weight. Changing rebound (extension force dampening ) will not make any difference in controlling your heavy tires. Koni 90s would work much better with your truck as well as higher rate front springs since the G55k is very heavy at the front . Take your brush gaurd of for a run and you will see improvement from the spring rate frequency increase. Dave If I remember right you got white springs at the front and I do not think you race your truck a ONE does. At one third from full soft you should have a comfy ride (one and a half half turns) considering you run proper tires that are not too heavy which is fine with the spxs since they are set with out much compression force which makes them ride nice and soft If there is a little more benefit to have a little extra extension forces is at the front end and there is big differences when you adjust every half turn. Mario Edited by 512bbi 9/8/2012 5:15 AM | |
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| hipine Date registered: Jul 2006 Location: US, CO, Bailey Vehicle(s): 460 1980 280GE w. 617A | ||
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| dai Expert Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: Oregon USA Vehicle(s): 300GD 300TD BMW R100RS Landini 80F Posts: 2110 | ||
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| hipine Date registered: Jul 2006 Location: US, CO, Bailey Vehicle(s): 460 1980 280GE w. 617A | ||
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| krnnerdboy Regular Date registered: Aug 2011 Location: los angeles Vehicle(s): 02 g500, 640 gran coupe, f30, m6, gt3 Posts: 55  | Re: Changing to Koni SPX front shocks thanks for all of the feedback, i'm wondering if you ever considered the fox 2.0 external reservoir shocks? They have been working wonderfully for me, and even though I haven't had much time with them in the G, I had a lot of use on them on my tacoma...the truck was used for desert and dune riding at fairly quick speeds, to the point where I bent my frame in half from jumping it. the shocks were perfectly fine the body and frame were not | |
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| AlanMcR Expert Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: US, CA, Los Altos Vehicle(s): G300DT E300DT 230SL Posts: 3500 | ||
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| hipine Date registered: Jul 2006 Location: US, CO, Bailey Vehicle(s): 460 1980 280GE w. 617A | ||
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| ONE Veteran Date registered: Sep 2007 Location: SW Vehicle(s): G-less at the moment...ford Posts: 105  | Re: Changing to Koni SPX front shocks 512bbi - 9/8/2012 5:10 AM ONE - 9/6/2012 4:22 PM hipine - 9/6/2012 5:58 PM Thanks for sharing. That's good info. I set mine to the mid-point of the adjustment travel starting from full soft. Maybe I should have gone with AMZ's original advice to set them full soft. I might have to drive it around a little as it is then pull them and set them full soft and see how that is. We'll see.... -Dave G. I had them at full soft at first and felt it was too bouncy. However I have much bigger tires so that might have a big impact. I could only find a full soft spot where the travel starts - but never an end point or click for full hard - were you able to detect any clicks - stop? I am about to pull them out again as I suspect that my right front is much softer then my left front. Having had to drive with the shot shocks for quiet a few more days - it seems that I had killed my steering shock as well - naturally getting horrific wobble. When I installed the new replacement SPX the wobble was gone. However after the 2 hour shake down run - wobble is coming back If your shocks wear out you will get more vibes from your steering because of the fact the front red soft springs you run will allow much more movement of thrust angle changes on your front axle. Your larger wide tires are heavy so you need much more compression forces from your shocks to control your extra unsprung weight. Changing rebound (extension force dampening ) will not make any difference in controlling your heavy tires. Koni 90s would work much better with your truck as well as higher rate front springs since the G55k is very heavy at the front . Take your brush gaurd of for a run and you will see improvement from the spring rate frequency increase. Dave If I remember right you got white springs at the front and I do not think you race your truck a ONE does. At one third from full soft you should have a comfy ride (one and a half half turns) considering you run proper tires that are not too heavy which is fine with the spxs since they are set with out much compression force which makes them ride nice and soft If there is a little more benefit to have a little extra extension forces is at the front end and there is big differences when you adjust every half turn. Mario @ Mario I think I have read most of your posts about your suspension setup over the years, and I have to say every one of your statements have always been spot-on with my own observations! I killed the new set up SPX after the 2hour shakedown test...thinking about trying something else...I know your setup is most likely perfect! | |
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| 512bbi Expert Date registered: Jan 2007 Location: North western US and Europe Vehicle(s): 05G55kge,Range rover classic,clk55amg,ML 430 Posts: 1313 | Re: Changing to Koni SPX front shocks ONE - 10/5/2012 11:46 PM 512bbi - 9/8/2012 5:10 AM ONE - 9/6/2012 4:22 PM hipine - 9/6/2012 5:58 PM Thanks for sharing. That's good info. I set mine to the mid-point of the adjustment travel starting from full soft. Maybe I should have gone with AMZ's original advice to set them full soft. I might have to drive it around a little as it is then pull them and set them full soft and see how that is. We'll see.... -Dave G. I had them at full soft at first and felt it was too bouncy. However I have much bigger tires so that might have a big impact. I could only find a full soft spot where the travel starts - but never an end point or click for full hard - were you able to detect any clicks - stop? I am about to pull them out again as I suspect that my right front is much softer then my left front. Having had to drive with the shot shocks for quiet a few more days - it seems that I had killed my steering shock as well - naturally getting horrific wobble. When I installed the new replacement SPX the wobble was gone. However after the 2 hour shake down run - wobble is coming back If your shocks wear out you will get more vibes from your steering because of the fact the front red soft springs you run will allow much more movement of thrust angle changes on your front axle. Your larger wide tires are heavy so you need much more compression forces from your shocks to control your extra unsprung weight. Changing rebound (extension force dampening ) will not make any difference in controlling your heavy tires. Koni 90s would work much better with your truck as well as higher rate front springs since the G55k is very heavy at the front . Take your brush gaurd of for a run and you will see improvement from the spring rate frequency increase. Dave If I remember right you got white springs at the front and I do not think you race your truck a ONE does. At one third from full soft you should have a comfy ride (one and a half half turns) considering you run proper tires that are not too heavy which is fine with the spxs since they are set with out much compression force which makes them ride nice and soft If there is a little more benefit to have a little extra extension forces is at the front end and there is big differences when you adjust every half turn. Mario @ Mario I think I have read most of your posts about your suspension setup over the years, and I have to say every one of your statements have always been spot-on with my own observations! I killed the new set up SPX after the 2hour shakedown test...thinking about trying something else...I know your setup is most likely perfect! Guess what controls the springs of this puppy at 175..... Stock Konis ,no gas ,twin tubes,identical to the 90s only a little smaller. I just placed threads on them for corner weighting the car and adjust rebound to new springs. Stock...... made in Holland and dyno tested and recorded on the owners manual at 13 inches per second.......mention that to Bilstein....they do not even test at that kind of speeds. There is a reason why the best in all of all racing always used Koni.......... Mario (P1010014-001.JPG) (P1010019-002.JPG) (P1010023-002.JPG) Attachments ---------------- P1010014-001.JPG (72KB - 0 downloads) P1010019-002.JPG (82KB - 0 downloads) P1010023-002.JPG (66KB - 0 downloads) | |
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| H1LM002G55 Expert Date registered: Mar 2010 Location: S Florida / Geneva / Jeddah Vehicle(s): 500 GE, G55, LM002, H1 Posts: 1796 | ||
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| 512bbi Expert Date registered: Jan 2007 Location: North western US and Europe Vehicle(s): 05G55kge,Range rover classic,clk55amg,ML 430 Posts: 1313 | ||
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| H1LM002G55 Expert Date registered: Mar 2010 Location: S Florida / Geneva / Jeddah Vehicle(s): 500 GE, G55, LM002, H1 Posts: 1796 | ||
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| 512bbi Expert Date registered: Jan 2007 Location: North western US and Europe Vehicle(s): 05G55kge,Range rover classic,clk55amg,ML 430 Posts: 1313 | ||
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