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Fred V Regular Date registered: Apr 2014 Location: Green Mnts Vehicle(s): 02 G500 Posts: 88 | Intermediate drive shaft CV joints? My G is just about to turn 70k miles and am trying to do preventive maintenance. Have replaced a number of items, such as the crankshaft position sensor, simply based on age and others have needed work. I read with interest one of the post below which included the comment; "You're at good number of miles at which to clean out and re-grease your intermediate drive shaft CV joints, or at the very least check the boots for cracks and go from there." Looked at the boots this morning, they are intact but when I touch them they are not what I would call flexible. Quite stiff, more like a hard plastic than what I would expect for rubber. I would assume that means time for new ones or is that what they normally feel like? Thank you. | ||
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G-AMG G-Class DIY Host Date registered: May 2006 Location: South Texas Vehicle(s): '04 G55, '80 280GE, '99 S420, '98 E320, 2011 E350 | Re: Intermediate drive shaft CV joints? At 70K, I would recommend you just change them, along with the CV Grease. | ||
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fernweh Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: Calabasas, CA - Centenario, BCS - Luebeck, Germany Vehicle(s): Few Mercedes-Benz, a Toyota Amphibious and a Vespa | Re: Intermediate drive shaft CV joints? Not really completely related, but very interesting..... please watch this: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=470937339716400&fref=nf Edited by fernweh 7/13/2014 5:06 PM | ||
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Braingears Expert Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: St Petersburg, FL Vehicle(s): G320 & ML320 Posts: 1450 | Re: Intermediate drive shaft CV joints? I don't think this applies since it's a CV rather than a U-joint. | ||
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4x4abc Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: La Paz, Baja California, Mexico Vehicle(s): 02 G500 | RE: Intermediate drive shaft CV joints? the boots will not likely show any sign of aging at 70,000 miles - it's the grease that loses all it's properties. Replace the grease very soon. If you find any sign of wear after cleaning the units, you must install new CV joints. I have tried to re-grease worn CV's - it does not work. http://carlosnpainter.smugmug.com/Cars/G500-center-drive-shaft/7830... rather than replacing just the CV joints I found it much more economic to simply stick in an entire new shaft. around $650 if you shop around http://carlosnpainter.smugmug.com/Cars/new-center-drive-shaft-G500/... (CV.jpg) Attachments ---------------- CV.jpg (284KB - 0 downloads) | ||
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Titus Pullo Elite Veteran Date registered: May 2007 Location: Ottawa, ON, Canada Vehicle(s): '90 Wolf 240GD, '06 G270 CDI. Posts: 1010 | RE: Intermediate drive shaft CV joints? 4x4abc - 7/14/2014 6:54 AM the boots will not likely show any sign of aging at 70,000 miles - it's the grease that loses all it's properties. Replace the grease very soon. If you find any sign of wear after cleaning the units, you must install new CV joints. I have tried to re-grease worn CV's - it does not work. Now Harald tell me something: I had a very little vibration, most likely coming from the center propshaft. Pull it out, inspected thoroughly; both rubber boots and clamps intact, rubber soft and not cracked; however the grease inside was pretty hard. Marked, dissembled, cleaned and inspected carefully - no signs of wear, zero, nada. re-greased, assembled, installed back. Still slight vibration, noticeable less but still. What this could be.Sorry for the of topic - its not gonna happen again | ||
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4x4abc Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: La Paz, Baja California, Mexico Vehicle(s): 02 G500 | RE: Intermediate drive shaft CV joints? Titus, chasing vibrations is difficult. However, since you worked on the shaft and now the vibrations are less, it would indicate that the cause is the center shaft. How many miles? | ||
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MiN Extreme Veteran Date registered: May 2006 Location: Alpujarras, Spain Vehicle(s): No cars, at all. Posts: 555 | Re: Intermediate drive shaft CV joints? It could be worn transfer case mounts. Check the left hand one (viewed from the rear), which suffers the most movement. | ||
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Titus Pullo Elite Veteran Date registered: May 2007 Location: Ottawa, ON, Canada Vehicle(s): '90 Wolf 240GD, '06 G270 CDI. Posts: 1010 | RE: Intermediate drive shaft CV joints? 4x4abc - 7/15/2014 11:59 PM Titus, chasing vibrations is difficult. However, since you worked on the shaft and now the vibrations are less, it would indicate that the cause is the center shaft. How many miles? 100K now. Now, something else comes in my mind. A old trick we used to use back in the third world - when you have a worn CV joints on a FWD car axle shafts sometimes we use to change the CV joints -left goes to right and the right goes to the left, this way they work on a non worn surface. Did it couple of times and it works. So what will gonna happen if I mount my center shaft the reverse direction. Not saying that I will do it, just food for thoughts. | ||
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AlanMcR Expert Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: US, CA, Los Altos Vehicle(s): G300DT E300DT 230SL Posts: 3500 | RE: Intermediate drive shaft CV joints? Clever, but in this case, the direction of twist is the same if you switch ends. So, no help at all. | ||
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colsG55 Veteran Date registered: Aug 2013 Location: Dubai Vehicle(s): G55 Classic 2000, TD5 110, 200 Series Land Cruiser Posts: 209 | Re: Intermediate drive shaft CV joints? G'day all, Has anyone got the PN for the boots, mine have seen better days & are starting to split. It is time for new boots & a re-grease. | ||
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DUTCH Administrator Doppelgänger Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: US, GA, Atlanta Vehicle(s): 2015 Audi Q7 3.0 TDI,2018 Sprinter Posts: 9963 | Re: Intermediate drive shaft CV joints? colsG55 - 9/29/2015 1:37 PM G'day all, Has anyone got the PN for the boots, mine have seen better days & are starting to split. It is time for new boots & a re-grease. Eurotruck has both the MB kit (A.463.410.00.28) and the GKN aftermarket kit at a lower price. See here and scroll down a bit. http://www.eurotruck-importers.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=... | ||
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colsG55 Veteran Date registered: Aug 2013 Location: Dubai Vehicle(s): G55 Classic 2000, TD5 110, 200 Series Land Cruiser Posts: 209 | Re: Intermediate drive shaft CV joints? Thanks Dutch. | ||
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ILIAN Veteran Date registered: Sep 2014 Location: Boston MA Vehicle(s): 2000 G500 1999 CL500 Posts: 181 | Re: Intermediate drive shaft CV joints? Harald, where did you get the new shaft for $650? Is this a typo? The cheapest I can find it is $820. | ||
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DUTCH Administrator Doppelgänger Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: US, GA, Atlanta Vehicle(s): 2015 Audi Q7 3.0 TDI,2018 Sprinter Posts: 9963 | Re: Intermediate drive shaft CV joints? ILIAN - 9/29/2015 6:26 PM Harald, where did you get the new shaft for $650? Is this a typo? The cheapest I can find it is $820. Harald's post is from 14 months ago. Your $820 price is pretty darned good. MBUSA MSRP for that shaft is US$1,490.00, discounted from my parts supplier to US$1,117.50. So, I would say to you, where did you find it for $820.00? | ||
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ILIAN Veteran Date registered: Sep 2014 Location: Boston MA Vehicle(s): 2000 G500 1999 CL500 Posts: 181 | Re: Intermediate drive shaft CV joints? Couch Off Road engineering out of Colorado has it for $800 plus shipping. This is for a GKN shaft P/N 463 410 07 02 that fits 90's and early 00's G's. Not mercedes. | ||
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Braingears Expert Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: St Petersburg, FL Vehicle(s): G320 & ML320 Posts: 1450 | Re: Intermediate drive shaft CV joints? ILIAN - 9/30/2015 6:15 PM Couch Off Road engineering out of Colorado has it for $800 plus shipping. This is for a GKN shaft P/N 463 410 07 02 that fits 90's and early 00's G's. Not mercedes. So are these GKN parts or another after-market part? | ||
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DUTCH Administrator Doppelgänger Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: US, GA, Atlanta Vehicle(s): 2015 Audi Q7 3.0 TDI,2018 Sprinter Posts: 9963 | Re: Intermediate drive shaft CV joints? ILIAN - 9/30/2015 6:15 PM Couch Off Road engineering out of Colorado has it for $800 plus shipping. This is for a GKN shaft P/N 463 410 07 02 that fits 90's and early 00's G's. Not mercedes. Is that where Steve Dempsey is now working? | ||
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WEBIII Extreme Veteran Date registered: Oct 2010 Location: Inlet Beach, FL Vehicle(s): 461.318, 463.241 Posts: 315 | Re: Intermediate drive shaft CV joints? DUTCH - 9/30/2015 6:19 PM ILIAN - 9/30/2015 6:15 PM Couch Off Road engineering out of Colorado has it for $800 plus shipping. This is for a GKN shaft P/N 463 410 07 02 that fits 90's and early 00's G's. Not mercedes. Is that where Steve Dempsey is now working? Yup. | ||
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Braingears Expert Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: St Petersburg, FL Vehicle(s): G320 & ML320 Posts: 1450 | Re: Intermediate drive shaft CV joints? DUTCH - 9/30/2015 7:17 PM ILIAN - 9/30/2015 6:15 PM Couch Off Road engineering out of Colorado has it for $800 plus shipping. This is for a GKN shaft P/N 463 410 07 02 that fits 90's and early 00's G's. Not mercedes. Is that where Steve Dempsey is now working?Is that Steve Dempsey from EuroTruck? I just spoke to him a week or so ago. | ||
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DUTCH Administrator Doppelgänger Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: US, GA, Atlanta Vehicle(s): 2015 Audi Q7 3.0 TDI,2018 Sprinter Posts: 9963 | Re: Intermediate drive shaft CV joints? Braingears - 9/30/2015 7:52 PM DUTCH - 9/30/2015 7:17 PM ILIAN - 9/30/2015 6:15 PM Couch Off Road engineering out of Colorado has it for $800 plus shipping. This is for a GKN shaft P/N 463 410 07 02 that fits 90's and early 00's G's. Not mercedes. Is that where Steve Dempsey is now working?Is that Steve Dempsey from EuroTruck? I just spoke to him a week or so ago. He used to work at EuroTruck. | ||
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Otiswesty Administrator Date registered: Jun 2007 Location: Portland, Oregon Vehicle(s): 463.241, 461.213 Posts: 3006 | Re: Intermediate drive shaft CV joints? G-AMG - 7/13/2014 1:36 PM At 70K, I would recommend you just change them, along with the CV Grease. You never know buying a used truck. I got my G500 with 84 K miles. I thought about doing the shaft a few times. We had the trans out last month and the intermediate shaft CVs and boots looked great, so we just refreshed the CV grease. Always drove like butter with no vibes until the trans grenaded.. Good as new now, or better | ||
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WEBIII Extreme Veteran Date registered: Oct 2010 Location: Inlet Beach, FL Vehicle(s): 461.318, 463.241 Posts: 315 | Re: Intermediate drive shaft CV joints? To add to this old thread, my 2000 G500 has 75k miles and has been in climate controlled storage since March of this year. I just got it out of storage and noticed a noise (similar to running an aggressive mud tread on pavement) and vibration above 1500rpm. I checked the intermediate shaft and both boots have elongated cracks. I'm leaving town again this week so the G will go to my indie mechanic for a shaft swap. 😒 | ||
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H1LM002G55 Expert Date registered: Mar 2010 Location: S Florida / Geneva / Jeddah Vehicle(s): 500 GE, G55, LM002, H1 Posts: 1796 | Re: Intermediate drive shaft CV joints? Maybe a good idea to save the old shaft so you have a spare that you can R&R the CV joints on if MB keeps raising the prices for these prop shafts. | ||
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