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Posted 10/25/2018 10:42 AM
DUTCH
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Air Suspension for the G-Class

What a great idea!

https://www.vbairsuspension.com/upload/File/Productbladen/Engels/Mer...

It's gotta be a good product, since it's made by a Dutch company.
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Posted 10/25/2018 4:33 PM
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Re: Air Suspension for the G-Class

There are moments that Rover Air Suspension shine. With my G500 on 33's with OME suspension, vehicle empty as it ever gets, Europa side steps removed for refinishing, hips causing problems, it is literally a stretch getting in. I like the auto level function for sleeping in the back, RTT or Camptops, and camper conversions. Reliability is not negotiable for me even if it is a Dutch Company.

Edited by Aircruiser 10/25/2018 4:34 PM
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Posted 10/27/2018 1:50 PM
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Re: Air Suspension for the G-Class

Cost?
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Posted 10/27/2018 2:21 PM
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Re: Air Suspension for the G-Class

AGuess - 10/27/2018 1:50 PM

Cost?


You could probably contact them to find out. It's probably not cheap. That option on a Sprinter RV is little over US$10K.
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Posted 11/4/2018 11:46 AM
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RE: Air Suspension for the G-Class

Interesting! I recently completed overlanding setup for a Lexus LX570 I picked up in July. It all worked famously on this fall's annual trip (Eastern NV this time). The Lexus doesn't have a body leveling feature to try and level the body regardless of terrain. I thought it would be neat to have for the roof top tent, but other than that, couldn't figure out why it would make any sense for a manufacturer to offer such a feature. Would be interesting to hear LR's take on it.

I think some electrickery could be hacked up to interrupt the signals from the suspension height sensors and augment them with info from a level sensor. But so far a handy rock or two has done the deed for me.

So far the handiest bit about the auto suspension was dropping it to "slammed" mode to get my RTT's ladder to reach the ground with the 33" tires that are on the car.

It would be fun to push a button and level the tent though!

-Dave G.
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Posted 11/4/2018 12:16 PM
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RE: Air Suspension for the G-Class

hipine - 11/4/2018 11:46 AM

Interesting! I recently completed overlanding setup for a Lexus LX570 I picked up in July. It all worked famously on this fall's annual trip (Eastern NV this time). The Lexus doesn't have a body leveling feature to try and level the body regardless of terrain. I thought it would be neat to have for the roof top tent, but other than that, couldn't figure out why it would make any sense for a manufacturer to offer such a feature. Would be interesting to hear LR's take on it.

I think some electrickery could be hacked up to interrupt the signals from the suspension height sensors and augment them with info from a level sensor. But so far a handy rock or two has done the deed for me.

So far the handiest bit about the auto suspension was dropping it to "slammed" mode to get my RTT's ladder to reach the ground with the 33" tires that are on the car.

It would be fun to push a button and level the tent though!

-Dave G.


Here's an idea.

http://www.thebigfootleveler.com/
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Posted 11/4/2018 10:52 PM
hipine



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All the hardware for 6" of travel is already there at each corner. It's just a matter of fooling the sensors a little bit. I think the height sensors are just variable resistors. It might be just a matter of connecting a pot (variable resistor) in series with the height sensor at either the low or the high corner (depending which direction is higher resistance) and dialing it to level the thing out. Better bet would probably be a switch and pot at each corner. The switch to take the pot in/out of the circuit. Now you've got me going to the parts diagram to see if I can get the connectors and pins to tap into the factory harnesses.

-Dave G.
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Posted 11/9/2018 9:37 PM
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RE: Air Suspension for the G-Class

hipine - 11/4/2018 9:46 AM

Interesting! I recently completed overlanding setup for a Lexus LX570 I picked up in July. It all worked famously on this fall's annual trip (Eastern NV this time). The Lexus doesn't have a body leveling feature to try and level the body regardless of terrain. I thought it would be neat to have for the roof top tent, but other than that, couldn't figure out why it would make any sense for a manufacturer to offer such a feature. Would be interesting to hear LR's take on it.

I think some electrickery could be hacked up to interrupt the signals from the suspension height sensors and augment them with info from a level sensor. But so far a handy rock or two has done the deed for me.

So far the handiest bit about the auto suspension was dropping it to "slammed" mode to get my RTT's ladder to reach the ground with the 33" tires that are on the car.

It would be fun to push a button and level the tent though!

-Dave G.



Dave, How does your LX570 handle hwy285 during the winter? I'm sure that sweet motor pulls just fine
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Posted 11/10/2018 9:49 AM
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JamesG - 11/9/2018 7:37 PM
Dave, How does your LX570 handle hwy285 during the winter? I'm sure that sweet motor pulls just fine :)


We'll find out! This will be the poor girl's first experience of winter as she grew up in South Texas until she came home with me in July. Since September she's riding on 2018 Tundra 18" wheels and Falken Wildpeak A/T3W LT275 /70 R18 tires. That should at least get the elephant out of her ballet slippers and into some hiking boots.

Morning temps are solidly in the low teens most days now so she's getting a rude awakening, but handling it well all in all. So far we've only had one good icy, snowy evening that turned the 1 hr commute into 2.5 but she didn't put a foot wrong throughout that. As long as I keep her 5995 lb curb weight and lack of studs in the tires in mind and do my part I think we'll be ok. Fingers crossed.

Nice to hear from you James! Time for a cup of coffee one of these days. Wyatt (oldest boy) works a bunch at the Safeway so you'll see the baby G there most evenings.

-Dave G.
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Posted 11/19/2018 6:38 PM
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RE: Air Suspension for the G-Class

Ok, back to the subject.....

I do believe an air suspension is a wonderful thing, as long do you have the parts support near by.

Not on a G-wagen, but with another MB vehicle of mine, I did experienced an air suspension blow out on the paved Federal Highway 1 in Baja California.

The vehicle in question, a W211 wagon, descended down close to the road surface, unfit to drive any further.......

Would be not much fun, having the same issue with a G-wagen, somewhere in the dirt, like the Death Valley.





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