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Why is the S65 'optioned' while the S600 has everything standard?
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Posted 4/22/2006 1:27 PM
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Why is the S65 'optioned' while the S600 has everything standard?

I just heard about this somewhere. The S600 has every single option standard, whereas the S65 AMG will have options.

They did the same thing for the W220. There were some S65's that were running around without Distronic, Parktronic.
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Posted 4/22/2006 2:07 PM
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Re: Why is the S65 'optioned' while the S600 has everything standard?

weight savings?

I can't imagine that a 6.5l v12 needs to save weight to be a sporty car, but who really *needs* those features in the first place?

I, personally, would simply adore a new Benz without even climate control-- who can't flip a switch and turn a dial or even crank a window winder, pull a lever to adjust the seat or flip their own day/night mirror switch?!?

I call it laziness, most with money call it luxury.

Its all subjective.
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Posted 4/22/2006 2:20 PM
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Re: Why is the S65 'optioned' while the S600 has everything standard?

I agree with you. But wouldn't it be nice to cruise down the Autobahn in the ultimate luxury cruiser, with the nice stuff standard? I mean having Distronic Plus and Brake Assist Plus would be nice while cruising.

Parktronic would be nice for a car as big as the S. And if you're going 100+ mph I wouldn't want to be fiddling around with the windows and climate.

And last but not least, you're spending close to $200k+ for car that you need to get options for. For around a little less, you get the S600 that has everything standard.
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Posted 4/22/2006 2:35 PM
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Re: Why is the S65 'optioned' while the S600 has everything standard?

You've got to understand that these cars are not engineered to be localized after they're sold in their country of origin anymore as well.

They design them with America in mind these days, rolling a window down is NOT hard, in fact, finding a window switch is harder for me(i have never owned a car with switches on the console) to do than to use my shoulder and elbow in a circular motion. 100mph is illegal, remember;)

The same goes for climate control and all that other stuff as well.

I am talking about something smaller, like an E240cdi(i made it up..) or something in a C body, not an S, let those guys have all the buttons and electrical problems they want=)
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Posted 4/22/2006 2:44 PM
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Re: Why is the S65 'optioned' while the S600 has everything standard?

The window controls on the newer MBs are no longer located on the center console, so that may not be a problem.
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Posted 4/22/2006 2:48 PM
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Re: Why is the S65 'optioned' while the S600 has everything standard?

hahaha that shows you how much I care
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Posted 4/23/2006 9:52 PM
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Re: Why is the S65 'optioned' while the S600 has everything standard?

well, I dunno about the S65 AMG, but ever since the W140, All S 600's have had every option ticked, except maybe two....

1) Individual Seating
2) Parkatronic
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Posted 4/26/2006 10:35 PM
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Re: Why is the S65 'optioned' while the S600 has everything standard?

1996_S500 - 4/23/2006 9:52 PM

well, I dunno about the S65 AMG, but ever since the W140, All S 600's have had every option ticked, except maybe two....

1) Individual Seating
2) Parkatronic


Was parktronic an option on the 600? I would be lost without mine. I guess the reason is that the S65 is ment to be all sporty? It has a different suspensio set up? I dunno the 600 would be enough car for me I would have no need for the extra power, I find my 320 more than adaquate. I think my car must be what you guys call a euro spec.
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Posted 4/27/2006 9:40 AM
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Re: Why is the S65 'optioned' while the S600 has everything standard?

NZ Benz - 4/26/2006 7:35 PM

1996_S500 - 4/23/2006 9:52 PM

well, I dunno about the S65 AMG, but ever since the W140, All S 600's have had every option ticked, except maybe two....

1) Individual Seating
2) Parkatronic


Was parktronic an option on the 600? I would be lost without mine. I guess the reason is that the S65 is ment to be all sporty? It has a different suspensio set up? I dunno the 600 would be enough car for me I would have no need for the extra power, I find my 320 more than adaquate. I think my car must be what you guys call a euro spec.


well NZ Benz,

With your car in particular, I think your previous owner, (From Singapore, If I remember correctly) must have put an aftermarket parkatronic in your W140, cuz the ones thar came out of the factory didn't look like that. Not to mention that the earliest year that Mercedes Benz installed parkatronic from the factory was 1996. And that was for everywhere except the US, the US got it in 1997.

But, I actually like the look of yours better.
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Posted 4/27/2006 4:39 PM
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Re: Why is the S65 'optioned' while the S600 has everything standard?

The S600 has Parktronic standard. It's the S65 that I'm not getting. Oh well.
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Posted 4/27/2006 5:01 PM
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Re: Why is the S65 'optioned' while the S600 has everything standard?

AsianML - 4/27/2006 1:39 PM

The S600 has Parktronic standard. It's the S65 that I'm not getting. Oh well.


well, we were talking about the W140. so....
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Posted 4/27/2006 5:05 PM
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Re: Why is the S65 'optioned' while the S600 has everything standard?

1996_S500 - 4/27/2006 5:01 PM
AsianML - 4/27/2006 1:39 PM The S600 has Parktronic standard. It's the S65 that I'm not getting. Oh well.
well, we were talking about the W140. so....
This is the W221 forum...
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Posted 4/27/2006 8:54 PM
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Re: Why is the S65 'optioned' while the S600 has everything standard?

AsianML - 4/27/2006 2:05 PM

1996_S500 - 4/27/2006 5:01 PM
AsianML - 4/27/2006 1:39 PM The S600 has Parktronic standard. It's the S65 that I'm not getting. Oh well.
well, we were talking about the W140. so....
This is the W221 forum... ;)


yes it is, but NZ Benz and I own W140's.

But yeah, it is still the W221 forum.
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Posted 4/28/2006 4:28 PM
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Re: Why is the S65 'optioned' while the S600 has everything standard?

if u are going to spend 190 grand for a car why not go all out and get the goodies for another 20,000?
most people that will buy one wont make a fuss....
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Posted 4/28/2006 6:44 PM
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Re: Why is the S65 'optioned' while the S600 has everything standard?

markcedes - 4/28/2006 4:28 PM if u are going to spend 190 grand for a car why not go all out and get the goodies for another 20,000? most people that will buy one wont make a fuss....
That is true, but why go through all the trouble of checking those boxes if you're already gonna spend $190k for it? You can spend $140k(?) and not have to go through all that trouble.
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Posted 4/28/2006 8:12 PM
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Re: Why is the S65 'optioned' while the S600 has everything standard?

AsianML - 4/28/2006 3:44 PM

markcedes - 4/28/2006 4:28 PM if u are going to spend 190 grand for a car why not go all out and get the goodies for another 20,000? most people that will buy one wont make a fuss....
That is true, but why go through all the trouble of checking those boxes if you're already gonna spend $190k for it? You can spend $140k(?) and not have to go through all that trouble.
well, actually, your salesperson guy can check them for you.
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Posted 4/30/2006 1:06 AM
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Re: Why is the S65 'optioned' while the S600 has everything standard?

AsianML - 4/28/2006 6:44 PM

markcedes - 4/28/2006 4:28 PM if u are going to spend 190 grand for a car why not go all out and get the goodies for another 20,000? most people that will buy one wont make a fuss....
That is true, but why go through all the trouble of checking those boxes if you're already gonna spend $190k for it? You can spend $140k(?) and not have to go through all that trouble.


ok asianml let me tell you how it works around here you see a car or research on the internet you call up ur local dealer or who ever you get ur cars from you place an order in one or two days you have your car
they take care of the work.....no negotiations or anything
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Posted 4/30/2006 12:18 PM
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Re: Why is the S65 'optioned' while the S600 has everything standard?

markcedes - 4/29/2006 10:06 PM

AsianML - 4/28/2006 6:44 PM

markcedes - 4/28/2006 4:28 PM if u are going to spend 190 grand for a car why not go all out and get the goodies for another 20,000? most people that will buy one wont make a fuss....
That is true, but why go through all the trouble of checking those boxes if you're already gonna spend $190k for it? You can spend $140k(?) and not have to go through all that trouble.


ok asianml let me tell you how it works around here you see a car or research on the internet you call up ur local dealer or who ever you get ur cars from you place an order in one or two days you have your car
they take care of the work.....no negotiations or anything


and no box checking.
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Posted 4/30/2006 6:01 PM
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Re: Why is the S65 'optioned' while the S600 has everything standard?

markcedes - 4/30/2006 1:06 AM
AsianML - 4/28/2006 6:44 PM
markcedes - 4/28/2006 4:28 PM if u are going to spend 190 grand for a car why not go all out and get the goodies for another 20,000? most people that will buy one wont make a fuss....
That is true, but why go through all the trouble of checking those boxes if you're already gonna spend $190k for it? You can spend $140k(?) and not have to go through all that trouble.
ok asianml let me tell you how it works around here you see a car or research on the internet you call up ur local dealer or who ever you get ur cars from you place an order in one or two days you have your car they take care of the work.....no negotiations or anything
You must have a good dealer for them to be willing to have you place an order over the phone...
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Posted 4/30/2006 9:25 PM
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Re: Why is the S65 'optioned' while the S600 has everything standard?

not realy a dealer we use leasing agencys
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