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Posted 5/1/2006 7:20 PM
BackRoll23

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MAF Sensor

How hard is it to swap one of these out yourself?
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Posted 5/3/2006 2:18 AM
storm

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RE: MAF Sensor

just remove the clips holding it to the air intake pipe undo the harness and install the new one (make sure your ignition is off)



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#7654 - in reply to #6727
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Posted 5/3/2006 7:23 PM
AlanMcR
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Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: US, CA, Los Altos
Vehicle(s): G300DT E300DT 230SL
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RE: MAF Sensor

For the diesels (98-2000+) there is a replacement MAF made by Pierburg(sp) that is cheap and more robust. If anyone is in need of the part number, PM me and I'll spend the time to dig it up.
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Posted 5/3/2006 10:39 PM
samhmbz

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RE: MAF Sensor

Over time the air mass will "re-adapt" the fuel trim mixture adaptations ect.. or you can have the dealer reset it for you and clear you cel if its on. The adaptations are most likley out of range if the sensor is bad. This will cause you engine to run to lean or rich depending on how it is trying to correct itelf for emissions purposes.
Sam
#8150 - in reply to #6727
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Posted 5/4/2006 1:32 PM
BackRoll23

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RE: MAF Sensor

Approx. how much does it cost to have it "reset"? 
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Posted 5/7/2006 3:13 AM
samhmbz

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From aprx $75.00-$125.00.
Sam
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Posted 5/13/2006 12:56 PM
steve-p

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RE: MAF Sensor

My E320 V6 has been a bit unhappy of late - full throttle acceleration tails off at around 4,000 rpm even though performance seems absolutely fine up to that point. It's still on the original plugs (at 105K miles) so I will be changing those anyway, but is this symptomatic of MAF sensor failure?
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Posted 5/14/2006 2:47 AM
storm

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Re: MAF Sensor

if your performance is fine till 4000K and your plugs are 105k old i'd suggest you try changing the plugs and filters first.

If it is a MAF fault try cleaning it first (very gently), sometimes that is all it needs.

Hopefully your problem will be resolved with new plugs and filters.

Let me know how it turns out.
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Posted 5/14/2006 5:45 AM
steve-p

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OK, thanks. Unless it gets any worse (and fuel consumption still seems fine at the moment) then the plugs will get changed at the next service which is a few months away yet.
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Posted 8/13/2006 11:06 PM
Darkmann

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RE: MAF Sensor

samhmbz - 5/3/2006 10:39 PM

Over time the air mass will "re-adapt" the fuel trim mixture adaptations ect.. or you can have the dealer reset it for you and clear you cel if its on. The adaptations are most likley out of range if the sensor is bad. This will cause you engine to run to lean or rich depending on how it is trying to correct itelf for emissions purposes.
Sam


Just to get this straight because my CEL is on and during B service they diagnosd it to the MAF. Since the CEL would only come on later, I declined for them to reset it when asked. Now, I plan to replace the MAF myself. After replacing it, do I have to go back to dealer and ask them to clear/reset anything? If yes, what am I asking them to do? Thanks.
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Posted 9/11/2006 3:56 PM
samhmbz

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Darkmann - 8/13/2006 8:06 PM
Just to get this straight because my CEL is on and during B service they diagnosd it to the MAF. Since the CEL would only come on later, I declined for them to reset it when asked. Now, I plan to replace the MAF myself. After replacing it, do I have to go back to dealer and ask them to clear/reset anything? If yes, what am I asking them to do?



Sorry for the delay,
If you replace the sensor and your lamp is on, it will go off on its own(eventually) after passing multiple on board tests without failing.... A alot of shops could reset the lamp for you via a obdII scanner. A dealer or someone w/ a high tech or factory system could only reset you "adaptations" witch would inturn erase your mixture and fuel info and restart the cycle(typically you notice a increase in power after this) And I would advise you to drive the vehicle hard after resetting the adaptations so it re-adapts to firmer driving conditions.

Sam
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Posted 1/27/2010 9:10 AM
umut

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RE: MAF Sensor

Hi

Can anyone describe how to clean the MAF?
Especiallt what to use (paint thinner, carb cleaner spray or else?)

Thanks in advance
#164915 - in reply to #6727
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Posted 2/18/2010 8:49 AM
dykaar
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Date registered: Jan 2009
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Vehicle(s): 86 951, 00 540i-6, 01 E320 4-matic Wagon
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RE: MAF Sensor

Here is an example DIY:

http://www.louv.tv/cars/m5/MAF/

I spray with throttle body cleaner, but any alchohol based solvent should work.

Anybody know of an element only swap? My e39 BMW uses the same element as a much cheaper Golf. After the swap the engine hiccupped once on restart and settled in a few seconds. As long as your O2 sensors are working it'll correct on the fly.

Regards,

doug
Waterloo, Ontario Canada, eh


86 951 (https://reg.pcaucr.org/forum/post.jsp?postid=2393)
01 E320 (W210) 4matic Wagon (http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w210-e-class/1417557-drl-diy-anybody-do-post3790569.html#post3790569)
00 540i-6 (http:// www.trillium-bmwclub.ca/forum/post.jsp?postid=1916)
94 855 turbo Wagon (sold in 09)
85 535i-5 (sold in 07)
83 944 (sold in 86)
I apparently only buy cars designated by numbers
#166670 - in reply to #6727
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Posted 6/29/2010 11:41 PM
kbad
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Date registered: Apr 2010
Location: southlake, tx
Vehicle(s): 2001 MB E320, 1996 Jeep XJ, 2010 VW CC
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Re: MAF Sensor

Darkmann.... the car will function without the maf...cel will come on if maf is disconnected or bad/dirty, and computer won't be able to make correct fuel/air mixture adjustments and mpg will be bad, but the car will function... when you correct the maf 'error', the computer will monitor and after several on/off cycles if all is ok, it will turn the cel off but the code will be stored in memory for reference.

Umut....nasilsin abi?.... you need this... http://www.crcindustries.com/auto/content/products_ss.aspx?ID=90 ...or, carb cleaner..... soak the maf and let it drip/air dry....do not touch the sensor/elements! ...here for diy instructions.... http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w210-e-class/1328069-maf-diy-pictor...

hey Doug.... look here for maf housing/sensor oe replacements... http://www.wfaw.net/index_files/gif_13.html ...top right, click on "MPG Auto Sports" ...i purchased a 3" maf housing and sensor, to replace the stock 2.5", from them...it is genuine bosch, new housing and new sensor! 2 x brand new e39 inserts for $150... http://mpgautoparts.com/proddetail.php?prod=00C2G2032

....once done with the maf....make sure to perform the "transmission soft reset" so you can enjoy the new/clean maf!...

MB 722.6x Transmission TCM Reset/Retrain Procedure By OhLord

This procedure will set the factory shift points and rpm in the Transmission Control Module to crisp settings.The harder you drive the car the less noticeable the change.

1. car should be warmed up and off, all doors closed,
2. Climate control off,
3. radio off.
4. Turn key to on position (do not start) - just to the position that all the lights are lit up on the dash.
5. Put your foot on the gas pedal and press all the way to the floor (why you don't want it running!)
6. Hold for 10-20 seconds,
7. turn key off with foot still on gas pedal pressed all the way to the floor,
8. slowly lift off the pedal and
9. sit for 2 minutes before removing the key, or opening the doors and exiting the car.
10. when tempted, go for a ride


Edited by kbad 6/29/2010 11:53 PM
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