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Posted 4/2/2007 6:21 AM

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RE: Steering stabilizer interchange?

hus55 - 4/2/2007 3:24 AM

my G is a lhd,does it make a difference

i will check the one on my lwb here in the uk,that one is a rhd.

thanks for the advice ;)

The main body of the dampner attached to the diff. The piston end attaches to the tie rod.

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Posted 4/2/2007 7:44 AM

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RE: Steering stabilizer interchange?

DUTCH - 4/2/2007 12:21 PM

hus55 - 4/2/2007 3:24 AM

my G is a lhd,does it make a difference

i will check the one on my lwb here in the uk,that one is a rhd.

thanks for the advice ;)

The main body of the dampner attached to the diff. The piston end attaches to the tie rod.

Just like this (an image better than a thousand words...)

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Posted 4/2/2007 7:50 AM

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Almost

mortinson - 4/2/2007 7:44 AM

Just like this (an image better than a thousand words...)

The dampner should be attached to the bottom of the diff bracket, instead of to the top. If you can't get the needed clearance with attachment from underneath, you need the updated bracket.

Attachment to the top of the tie rod bracket is correct, however.

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Posted 4/2/2007 10:58 AM

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RE: Almost

the manual is pretty clear on the position (different diff brackets are shown as well).
Reservoir to the diff side, mount damper on top.
Rod side towards wheel, mount on top.

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Posted 4/2/2007 11:16 AM

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RE: Almost

4x4abc - 4/2/2007 10:58 AM

the manual is pretty clear on the position (different diff brackets are shown as well).
Reservoir to the diff side, mount damper on top.

Perhaps so, but my G500 (w/ bracket #70) came that way from the factory. Someone obviously needs to retrain those Puchians.

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Posted 4/2/2007 11:55 AM

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RE: Steering stabilizer interchange?

ok.....ok....i get the message guys

but whats the adverse effect i am getting

i didnt notice a problem with the steering accept that it didn't self centre as good

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Posted 4/2/2007 12:17 PM

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RE: Steering stabilizer interchange?

I have to correct my last post - the 460 steering damper mounts differently.

Hussein,

if you steering does not center like it did before, there might be some binding in the geometry you created.

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Posted 4/2/2007 2:11 PM

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RE: Steering stabilizer interchange?

Dutch,

Would you please post a photo of your mounting with bracket #70?

Thank you,

-Sean

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RE: Steering stabilizer interchange?

I just replaced both my shock and the bracket of which I purchased from Eurotruck....the W460 bracket points down. Here is a photo of the shock and mounting points.....note I did not opt for the new and improved 463 shock and went with the original.
Mike

(shock (600 x 450).jpg)

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Re: Steering stabilizer interchange?

Can I have the jar full of pennies?

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RE: Steering stabilizer interchange?

I always forget that when one posts a photo, he must insure the integrity of the background.
In answer to your question....no. I may need that for gas money for the G.
Mike

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RE: Steering stabilizer interchange?

EuroTruck - 4/2/2007 2:11 PM

Dutch,

Would you please post a photo of your mounting with bracket #70?

Thank you,

-Sean

Without a lift, that's not very easy to do. Just take Mortinson's photo and imagine that the body end of the dampner is connected below the bracket instead of above the bracket as shown in his photo.

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Posted 4/2/2007 3:53 PM

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RE: Steering stabilizer interchange?

DUTCH - 4/2/2007 3:19 PM Without a lift, that's not very easy to do. Just take Mortinson's photo and imagine that the body end of the dampner is connected below the bracket instead of above the bracket as shown in his photo.

Gotcha, thanks.

I wanted to see a better view of the ledge on the pumpkin that #70 bracket bolts to. I ran out in the shop and took a look at an IFAV axle we have sitting on the shelf with the same setup. I had forgotten it was out there.

-Sean P.

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Posted 4/2/2007 6:50 PM

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Re: Steering stabilizer interchange?

I was thinking gas for the G too lol. My local Chevron here in the Marina costs $3.89 for a gallon of Supreme...damn the ML!!!

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Posted 4/4/2007 7:23 AM

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RE: Steering stabilizer interchange?

For what it's worth, here's a link to a previous thread about this topic - more pics and explanation:

http://www.pointedthree.com/disc/forums/showthread.php?tid=3232&pos...

Cheers

Jean

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Posted 4/4/2007 10:50 AM

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Re: Steering stabilizer interchange?

just looking a the various pictures made me think about the guys with taller springs - wouldn't it be better for them to have the side that mounts to the diff, mounted below instead of on top?

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Posted 4/4/2007 5:08 PM

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RE: Steering stabilizer interchange?

Sorry to change the subject, but Harald I could not help noticing a part on you 460 diagram that shows the rubber boots #442, on the ball joint, could you tell me the part number.

regards Steve

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Posted 4/4/2007 7:05 PM

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Re: Steering stabilizer interchange?

Steve,

I don't have the EPC running - maybe some other member can jump in. I believe only early 460 had replacable boots.

And see the other thread for reference: http://www.pointedthree.com/disc/forums/showthread.php?tid=6785&pos...
the boot is no longer available

Edited by 4x4abc 4/4/2007 7:19 PM

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Posted 4/5/2007 2:57 PM

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Re: Steering stabilizer interchange?

4x4abc - 4/5/2007 1:05 AM
I don't have the EPC running - maybe some other member can jump in. I believe only early 460 had replacable boots.

As far as I know this is correct.

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RE: Steering stabilizer interchange?

mortinson - 3/29/2007 3:17 PM

The attached pictures show the standard W463 damper (old one) and the thougher, G400CDI standard damper. Compare these two with those in the picture posted by Thairish.

Who manufacturers the "new" steering damper? Is it made by Stabilus?

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