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TheDogsCar
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Date registered: May 2006
Location: NYC
Vehicle(s): '05 G55K Firemist Red - Stolen
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| 2007 MBUSA Official Model Announcement
Thanks to eMercedesBenz.com for the link:
http://www.emercedesbenz.com/May06/26_MBUSA_Releases_2007_Mercedes_...
G-Class Sport Utility:
G500 and G55 AMG models continue
DVD navigation, bi-xenon headlights and seven-speed transmission now standard
Redesigned fog lamps and center console controls
Leather door handle grip and improved front seat cushioning
Edited by TheDogsCar 5/26/2006 1:45 PM
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KERR
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| Re: 2007 MBUSA Official Model Announcement
nice... wish they had a picture. |
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| Re: 2007 MBUSA Official Model Announcement
What I have been saying all along. Other info to come...Engine news..! |
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Braingears
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Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: St Petersburg, FL
Vehicle(s): G320 & ML320
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| RE: 2007 MBUSA Official Model Announcement
Other than the standardized 7 speed transmission, I really don't see any major difference. At least until I see the pictures. I was under the impression that the 7-Speed transmission was not that strong. On the other hand, they are using it in the GL Class with 7,500lbs Towing Capacity. |
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DCMB
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| Re: 2007 MBUSA Official Model Announcement
Yeah, what's the deal with the 7-speed transmission concerns? I'm not that up on my mechanic lessons. Can someone fill me in as to WHY the 7-speed trans might be disadvantageous? Thanks! |
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Thai
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| RE: 2007 MBUSA Official Model Announcement
See this thread:
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/g-class/1227597-transmission-5-spee...
In addition, the 7-speed has had some growing pains with other MB vehicles.
Edited by Thai 5/27/2006 7:35 AM
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BrentG500
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Date registered: Apr 2006
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Vehicle(s): 2004 G500 (gone)
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| Re: 2007 MBUSA Official Model Announcement
Bi-Xenon lights? Like those ORC offers? Bleech! |
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Braingears
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Date registered: Apr 2006
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| Re: 2007 MBUSA Official Model Announcement
I am curious what they look like??? |
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mb230s
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: SWFL
Vehicle(s): G-less for now, vintage MBs, FJ40
| Re: 2007 MBUSA Official Model Announcement
DCMB - 5/27/2006 1:27 AM Yeah, what's the deal with the 7-speed transmission concerns? I'm not that up on my mechanic lessons. Can someone fill me in as to WHY the 7-speed trans might be disadvantageous? Thanks! The pre-production cars have shifts that can barely be noticed (MB claims you can't notice). Fuel economy varies by model, but on the G it should be AT LEAST 1 MPG. It really is a damn good tranny. Unfortunatly, the AMG 5.5 puts out obscene torque which it can't handle. W/ the "ALL AMG" 6.3 and pending improvements (basically every model year it gets better) the kinks will/should be worked out w/ the 7 speed by the time I'm interested in buying a new G in 09 or 10(selfish - I know). MB is back on the right track after a terrible 01-03. The product coming out now it the best on the market -> bar none. I think everybody will be happy w/ the new tranny once they drive and experience it. Too bad a legend has to die, the 5 speed (especially with what AMG is doing with it today) is a damn good tranny. Probably one of the very best slush boxes ever - until this new 7. On a side note (if anybody at MB is reading this new forum) - I would buy a SL tomorrow if I could get a manual transmission. I do NOT want an auto - even if it has the F1 paddle shifters. Put a 6 speed manual in the SL or AMG SL - I'll buy it. Otherwise, there will soon be a Porsche in my stable. I'm very loyal to MB, but if you don't sell what I want - I'm forced to go elsewhere.
Edited by mb230s 5/28/2006 1:36 AM
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DCMB
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| RE: 2007 MBUSA Official Model Announcement
Ok, so that's the 411 on the 7-speed/5-speed issue. The 2006 will still have the 5-speed, and apparently, the 2007 will have the 7-speed but both will maintain the 55K AMG engine. Between the two (and knowing about the interior and headlight upgrades to the upcoming 2007 model), what would you guys choose?...considering this 7-speed/5-speed talk. Any real chance of AMG making adjustments to the 7-speed to properly handle the G-Class structure and the 55K engine that'll still be in it? PS: I'd wait for the 2008 G63, but I like the idea of having more torque rather than higher hp - it's a G, not an E. Raises another question though - anyone know the difference between the two engines (63 and 55) as far as at what RPMs you're actually getting these #s at? Maybe you're getting more power out of the 63 at lower RPMs. |
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Roch207
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Date registered: Apr 2006
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| RE: 2007 MBUSA Official Model Announcement
I will hold out for the CDI.....there will be a CDI, right? Wife looked at the GL, did not like the travel distance to step out from the drivers seat. That eliminates the GL from the running. |
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DUTCH
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Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: US, GA, Atlanta
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| RE: 2007 MBUSA Official Model Announcement
Roch207 - 5/28/2006 8:07 AM
I will hold out for the CDI.....there will be a CDI, right?
We hope!  |
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Thai
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| RE: 2007 MBUSA Official Model Announcement
If AMG is keeping the 55K engine, then i would probably feel better with 5-speed. However, it is almost impossible that they will keep 55K engine with the 7-speed auto coming out. Why would MB/AMG still make 55K engine when every other AMG cars no longer uses it (in 2007)?? This would be wasting resources and manufacturing time. Secondly, it is clearly evident today that whenever MB/AMG uses the 55K engine or 6.0 V12 biturbo, the 5-speed is used.
My guess in 2007: G500 will have 7-speed auto. G55K (if MB keeps it) will have the 5-speed auto. G63 (whenever that comes out) will then have the 7-speed auto. This is exactly what is going on right now with most MB/AMG cars. For example, the 2006 E500 uses 7-speed auto, but the E55 AMG uses the 5-speed. Or the SL500 with 7-speed, while SL55 & SL600 use 5-speed.
If the 2007-up G55K has the 5-speed, then i would definitely wait and get the new update. What you get today at dealership are 2005 models. This will not do well on resale down the road (if you ever sale it). However, after saying that, i would like to add that the handbuilders at Graz do not have a good history with model changes. 2002 G500's had a lot of issues...and these issues gradually went away as the years went on. So...i would wait at least a year before jumping in to buy the new update. In addition, you will likely get a better discount after it's initial release.
Edited by Thai 5/28/2006 8:20 AM
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Mopagi
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Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: New York /Toronto
Vehicle(s): 2005 G55K GE
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| RE: 2007 MBUSA Official Model Announcement
Roch207 - 5/28/2006 8:07 AM
I will hold out for the CDI.....there will be a CDI, right? Wife looked at the GL, did not like the travel distance to step out from the drivers seat. That eliminates the GL from the running.
I'm sorry, but if your wife is concerned about the travel distance of getting out of a GL, she will very likely end up hating just about everything to do with a G. These are two very different vehicles and before you spend too much time holding out for a CDI, you should really try to spend a few days living with a used G-500. She will either love it for what it is or the complaints will start to flow.
Best of luck...
Edited by Mopagi 5/28/2006 9:12 AM
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jimmy
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Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Dubai, United Arab Emirates
Vehicle(s): 2013 G 63 AMG
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| RE: 2007 MBUSA Official Model Announcement
Thai - 5/28/2006 4:19 PMIf AMG is keeping the 55K engine, then i would probably feel better with 5-speed. However, it is almost impossible that they will keep 55K engine with the 7-speed auto coming out. Why would MB/AMG still make 55K engine when every other AMG cars no longer uses it (in 2007)??
The 2007 SL55 still uses the same engine, but with output increased slightly.
Edited by jimmy 5/30/2006 4:59 AM
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Thai
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jimmy - 5/30/2006 3:53 AM
The 2007 SL55 still uses the same engine, but with output increased slightly.
But what tranny does it use?? 5-speed or 7-speed? |
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FLX
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Date registered: Apr 2006
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| Re: 2007 MBUSA Official Model Announcement
I read that because of the 7-speed, the gear lever will not be any longer in the middle console but on the steering wheel as in in the S-class (and GL) Source was http://www.offroad.mercedes-benz.de/ but I can't find the text anymore. So that would account for a little interior chande |
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ewalberg
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Date registered: Apr 2006
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| Re: 2007 MBUSA Official Model Announcement
Gear shifter on the steering column! Wow, that's great! Chrysler here we come! Also reminds me of my parents 79 chevy mailbu. Nice american car. Granted i've luckily not drive many cars with steering column shifters but they're all felt like junk and they weren't all cheap.  |
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Braingears
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Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: St Petersburg, FL
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| Re: 2007 MBUSA Official Model Announcement
FLX - 5/30/2006 11:28 AM I read that because of the 7-speed, the gear lever will not be any longer in the middle console but on the steering wheel as in the S-class (and GL ) Source was http://www.offroad.mercedes-benz.de/ but I can't find the text anymore. So that would account for a little interior chande I don't think I would like that. Perhaps they would make both the transmission and transfer case on a single shifter. I would prefer a real shifter, even if it was all fly-by-wire. On the other hand, you would have more room for drink holders.
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Thai
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Well, for sure, the 2007 SL55 AMG will have 5-speed auto tranny. As for the 7-speed column stick, this is not necessarily true. I am not in the loaner car from my dealership (my G is undergoing Service). It is C230...with 7-speed auto. It has the same tranny lever as before in between the front seats. |
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