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mike
Regular
Date registered: May 2006
Location: toronto, canada
Vehicle(s): 1985 280 ge, 1978 bj40 landcruiser
Posts: 79
| 1985 280 ge master clutch
Hi,
Just wondering if anyone knows if the same master clutch cylinder was used on any other MB cars. I'm trying to either replace or rebuild my master clutch cylinder. Any help would be appreaciated? Thx in advance |
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dai
Expert
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Oregon USA
Vehicle(s): 300GD 300TD BMW R100RS Landini 80F
Posts: 2110
| Re: 1985 280 ge master clutch
The 240 D 123 chassis SLAVE cylinder bolts right up to your 5 speed Getrag. Don't know if the clutch master cylinder is close or not.
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w.james
Veteran
Date registered: Jun 2006
Location: New Jersey
Vehicle(s): 84 280 GE 617A 5sp getrag
Posts: 239
| Re: 1985 280 ge master clutch
The last time I checked, the repair kit cost almost as much as a new cylinder. I have been thru 2 of them in 10 years |
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amzimmy
Elite Veteran
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: South Africa/Italy
Vehicle(s): GD300 1981, Alfa GT 3,2 V6, Alfa Brera Q4 3,2 V6.
Posts: 850
| RE: 1985 280 ge master clutch
Just a little word from SA,
I have found out that the Clutch slave cylinder is the same as the car, you just have to take the pin out from the original G part and fit it to the new part.
At the MB dealer in SA the G slave cylinder sells for R1,25K (R6 = 1 US$)and the car one only R 240. "quite a difference!"
The master cylinder has no other option than the original G part.
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amzimmy
Elite Veteran
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: South Africa/Italy
Vehicle(s): GD300 1981, Alfa GT 3,2 V6, Alfa Brera Q4 3,2 V6.
Posts: 850
| Re: 1985 280 ge master clutch
w.james - 6/14/2006 12:48 PM
The last time I checked, the repair kit cost almost as much as a new cylinder. I have been thru 2 of them in 10 years
If you want to refurbish the existing master cylinder I would suggest you have a stainless steel insert/sleeve machined, it will last you for a very long time.
I have done all of mine (breake/clutch) and machined according to the tolerance of the available seals.
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roughneck
Expert
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: UK, Germany & USA
Vehicle(s): 270 cdi.300 GD 300 GE.lwb 300 GE.swb. Disco 2
Posts: 4398
| RE: 1985 280 ge master clutch
The master cylinder is the same as many of the vans in the same period. |
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mike
Regular
Date registered: May 2006
Location: toronto, canada
Vehicle(s): 1985 280 ge, 1978 bj40 landcruiser
Posts: 79
| RE: 1985 280 ge master clutch
roughneck - 6/15/2006 9:20 AM
The master cylinder is the same as many of the vans in the same period.
Which model vans are you refering to? Thx |
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DUTCH
Administrator Doppelgänger
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: US, GA, Atlanta
Vehicle(s): 2015 Audi Q7 3.0 TDI,2018 Sprinter
Posts: 9963
| RE: 1985 280 ge master clutch
mike - 6/15/2006 3:50 PM
roughneck - 6/15/2006 9:20 AM
The master cylinder is the same as many of the vans in the same period.
Which model vans are you refering to? Thx
Mike, Roughneck is in Great Britain. You are located ?? His "many vans" may not be available in your location.
(PS. This is one good example of why it's important to know where you are!) |
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GDog
Date registered: Dec 1899
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| RE: 1985 280 ge master clutch
If your existing cylinder is not leaking I would suggest using a power bleeder. That will sometimes clean out all the old crud that is fowling up the works. I thought I needed to rebuild mine, but tried bleeding it first. I had to use a little more pressure than what was called for. Mine now works the best it has since I bought the truck four years ago.
You should fill out your profile, like Dutch suggested. |
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fernweh
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Calabasas, CA - Centenario, BCS - Luebeck, Germany
Vehicle(s): Few Mercedes-Benz, a Toyota Amphibious and a Vespa
| RE: 1985 280 ge master clutch
GDog - 6/15/2006 2:16 PM
If your existing cylinder is not leaking I would suggest using a power bleeder. That will sometimes clean out all the old crud that is fowling up the works. I thought I needed to rebuild mine, but tried bleeding it first. I had to use a little more pressure than what was called for. Mine now works the best it has since I bought the truck four years ago.
You should fill out your profile, like Dutch suggested.
I second this advise - but do not overlook that flexible line, it can start to deteriorate and reduce the flow to and from the clutch slave cylinder!
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dai
Expert
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Oregon USA
Vehicle(s): 300GD 300TD BMW R100RS Landini 80F
Posts: 2110
| RE: 1985 280 ge master clutch
DUTCH - 6/15/2006 1:16 PM
mike - 6/15/2006 3:50 PM
roughneck - 6/15/2006 9:20 AM
The master cylinder is the same as many of the vans in the same period.
Which model vans are you refering to? Thx
Mike, Roughneck is in Great Britain. You are located ?? His "many vans" may not be available in your location.
(PS. This is one good example of why it's important to know where you are! )
Mr. Roughneck if you can tell us what van or vans the master cylinder is in it will be possible for us to get a part number and then get a hold of the part. The Sprinter is one of the first Mercedes commercial vans avaliable here in the States. Is the van series you mention the 307 or 407 type? If we could home in on a part number there are folks like Sean at Eurotruck that can order the part. Thanks,
-Dai
I agree with others that pressure bleeding will likely solve the problem if the Master, Slave and flex hose are in good shape. I've never had any luck bleeding a Mercedes clutch without pressure.
Edited by dai 6/16/2006 12:45 PM
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roughneck
Expert
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: UK, Germany & USA
Vehicle(s): 270 cdi.300 GD 300 GE.lwb 300 GE.swb. Disco 2
Posts: 4398
| RE: 1985 280 ge master clutch
Sorry Mike, I thought for some reason that you were in SA where there are many of these old vans, the 207-208 307-308-407 etc
I don't think Sean has had much luck in getting these alternatives in the past.
I will get part numbers over the coming days. |
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Benz-Dady
Date registered: Dec 1899
Location:
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| Re: 1985 280 ge master clutch
I have not seen Sean on the forum lately. But I think he has that part, you might want to call him. Maby he will logon and comment... |
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dai
Expert
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Oregon USA
Vehicle(s): 300GD 300TD BMW R100RS Landini 80F
Posts: 2110
| Re: 1985 280 ge master clutch
Sean has been very busy. He said he is having log on problems with this forum. I hope he gets it sorted, he is an important contributor to the G community. I know I don't have much patience for computer glitchyness. No time for it, which was one reason for walking away from the old forum.
As Benz-Dady said give him a call and see if there are options from other chassis like the 407 van.
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Steve D
Veteran
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Denver, CO
Vehicle(s): 1984 280GE cabrio; 2011 Ford Expedition
Posts: 112
| Re: 1985 280 ge master clutch
I am sure Sean would be happy to reply. I believe Sean has been banned from this forum or there is some other snafu. He has tried to log on many times and has contacted the administrator 3 times with no replies. Maybe Dutch can help get this straightened out
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DUTCH
Administrator Doppelgänger
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: US, GA, Atlanta
Vehicle(s): 2015 Audi Q7 3.0 TDI,2018 Sprinter
Posts: 9963
| Re: 1985 280 ge master clutch
Steve D - 6/17/2006 1:48 PM
Maybe Dutch can help get this straightened out
He probably can, if asked. DUTCH does have some Admin privileges; and access to some - not all - of the "controls".. |
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Bill K
Date registered: Dec 1899
Location:
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| Re: 1985 280 ge master clutch
Overhaul the transmitting cylinder
http://www.hanshehl.de/engtipp16.htm
Check out some of the part numbers on
http://t4media-agency.de:8080/partavail/start_en.jsp?referrer=
Looks like the site is down for the moment
Good luck |
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Bruce
Veteran
Date registered: May 2006
Location: Flagstaff, AZ
Vehicle(s): 230GE, 300TD, 200D
Posts: 191
| Re: 1985 280 ge master clutch
Steve D - 6/17/2006 10:48 AM
I believe Sean has been banned from this forum or there is some other snafu. He has tried to log on many times and has contacted the administrator 3 times with no replies.
I sure hope that is not the problem. Things like that SHOULD NOT happen. Most of us migrated over here because of such problems at the old hangout. I see Sean IS still posting on the other forum.
Bruce (aka Cashieu)
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dai
Expert
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Oregon USA
Vehicle(s): 300GD 300TD BMW R100RS Landini 80F
Posts: 2110
| Re: 1985 280 ge master clutch
Bruce - 6/17/2006 8:34 PM
Steve D - 6/17/2006 10:48 AM
I believe Sean has been banned from this forum or there is some other snafu. He has tried to log on many times and has contacted the administrator 3 times with no replies.
I sure hope that is not the problem. Things like that SHOULD NOT happen. Most of us migrated over here because of such problems at the old hangout. I see Sean IS still posting on the other forum.
Bruce (aka Cashieu )
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DUTCH
Administrator Doppelgänger
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: US, GA, Atlanta
Vehicle(s): 2015 Audi Q7 3.0 TDI,2018 Sprinter
Posts: 9963
| Log-in Problems
Bruce - 6/17/2006 11:34 PM
Steve D - 6/17/2006 10:48 AM
I believe Sean has been banned from this forum or there is some other snafu. He has tried to log on many times and has contacted the administrator 3 times with no replies.
I sure hope that is not the problem. Things like that SHOULD NOT happen. Most of us migrated over here because of such problems at the old hangout. I see Sean IS still posting on the other forum.
Bruce (aka Cashieu )
I seriously doubt if he's been banned. He's not on the banned list.
There have been teething problems with this new forum, and some folks had difficulties logging on at different times; but these have pretty much been fixed afaik, since the number of requests for help I receive has dropped to pretty much nothing.
The main Admin has had some other personal issues which have reduced his time around here, and this may explain his no replies. He hasn't responded to PM's and emails I've sent recently either. Hopefully, that will change soon. In the mean time, I can help with a lot of the issues; but I can't try unless asked. |
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