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jam
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| Oil for 07 ML320 CDI is unavailable to the public
I called M1 ask if I could buy M1 ESP Formula M 5W-40 229.51 is not available only MB has it. CDI have exhaust filters that could become clogged if this oil is not used. Most engine burn some oil. |
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BenzDieselTuner
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that is interesting.......they must not make alot of it, or they are making better profits selling it through dealers only........ |
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Dieselburns
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| Re: Oil for 07 ML320 CDI is unavailable to the public
Do volkswagen's TDi use the same oil? |
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BenzDieselTuner
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TDi has its own special oil specification...........made by Castrol....... |
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BenzDieselTuner - 6/6/2007 5:52 PM
that is interesting.......they must not make alot of it, or they are making better profits selling it through dealers only........
I think the specs are so narrow that the only vehicles in the US that would use it are MB vehicles. I think it's one of the few low-ash synthetics out there, but it doesn't meet the API CJ (or even the older CI-4 spec) that most of the diesel pickups would require. I can't imagine many stores would want to carry a product with so narrow a customer base. |
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| So Buy It From Your Dealer!
jam - 6/6/2007 5:50 PM
I called M1 ask if I could buy M1 ESP Formula M 5W-40 229.51 is not available only MB has it. CDI have exhaust filters that could become clogged if this oil is not used. Most engine burn some oil.
So why not buy it from your dealer? I get mine from my dealer; and I am "the public". It comes 6 qts/case and cost me $5.25/qt. That's not an unreasonable price. |
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jam
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| RE: Oil for 07 ML320 CDI is unavailable to the public
I think all new ULSD diesel are going to have to use this kind of ESP oil. I just was surprised that I could not go to a store and buy the oil. Its not about price its about being available |
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DUTCH
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| RE: Oil for 07 ML320 CDI is unavailable to the public
jam - 6/8/2007 12:39 AM
Its not about price its about being available
It is available. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . at your MBUSA dealer.
My dealer is 45 miles away. I usually buy 6-8 6qt/cases when I go. I get my filters from Duval, since they have the best price. |
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jam
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Thank You Dutch I will go to the dealer for the oil. JAM |
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dmcginn2
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| Re: Oil for 07 ML320 CDI is unavailable to the public
I have an AMSOIL catalog, and they make oil that meets the same specs.....but it's almost $10 a quart.
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DUTCH
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| Re: Oil for 07 ML320 CDI is unavailable to the public
dmcginn2 - 6/13/2007 7:48 PM
I have an AMSOIL catalog, and they make oil that meets the same specs.....but it's almost $10 a quart.
It may meet the spec, but it's not on the official list of approved oils. |
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cmitch
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| RE: Oil for 07 ML320 CDI is unavailable to the public
I found some Mobil1 5W40 for diesel autos in Advance Auto Saturday. Would this be spec?
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DUTCH
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| RE: Oil for 07 ML320 CDI is unavailable to the public
cmitch - 6/13/2007 9:04 PM
I found some Mobil1 5W40 for diesel autos in Advance Auto Saturday. Would this be spec?
No. For the 2007 CDI engine it must be Mobil 1 ESP Formula M 5W-40.
The ESP stands for Emission System Protection. Not sure what the Formula M means. |
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BenzDieselTuner
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| RE: Oil for 07 ML320 CDI is unavailable to the public
dmcginn2 - 6/13/2007 7:48 PM
I have an AMSOIL catalog, and they make oil that meets the same specs.....but it's almost $10 a quart.
i was just looking like a while back to see if they had an oil that meets MB-229.51, and i didnt see any on their specs on various formulas of diesel oils......even Series 3000 didnt list that spec.........
which formula was it u saw that met MB-229.51 ????? |
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DUTCH
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| RE: Oil for 07 ML320 CDI is unavailable to the public
BenzDieselTuner - 6/21/2007 8:35 AM
dmcginn2 - 6/13/2007 7:48 PM
I have an AMSOIL catalog, and they make oil that meets the same specs.....but it's almost $10 a quart.
i was just looking like a while back to see if they had an oil that meets MB-229.51, and i didnt see any on their specs on various formulas of diesel oils......even Series 3000 didnt list that spec.........
which formula was it u saw that met MB-229.51 ?????
Amsoil European Car Formula 5W-40 |
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lkchris
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| RE: Oil for 07 ML320 CDI is unavailable to the public
The ESP stands for Emission System Protection. Not sure what the Formula M means. M for Mercedes! |
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dionysius
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| RE: Oil for 07 ML320 CDI is unavailable to the public
If you're having difficulty finding it, guess what, your dealer probably is too. If you're not there to watch the tech change your oil, chances are he's using the Mobil 1 5W-40 diesel oil you can get off the shelf at Walmart.
Denis
Edited by dionysius 7/14/2007 6:58 PM
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DUTCH
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| RE: Oil for 07 ML320 CDI is unavailable to the public
dionysius - 7/14/2007 6:58 PM
If you're having difficulty finding it, guess what, your dealer probably is too. If you're not there to watch the tech change your oil, chances are he's using the Mobil 1 5W-40 diesel oil you can get off the shelf at Walmart.
Denis
Dealers aren't having any problems. They are the sole US source for that oil. |
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jam
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| Re: Oil for 07 ML320 CDI is unavailable to the public
I went to my NJ MB dealer for 3000mi service . I ask about the oil M1 ESP is the only oil used $8qt. JAM |
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DUTCH
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| Re: Oil for 07 ML320 CDI is unavailable to the public
jam - 7/21/2007 12:22 AM
I went to my NJ MB dealer for 3000mi service . I ask about the oil M1 ESP is the only oil used $8qt. JAM
I paid $5.25/qt in 6 qt/case lots. Because of the ways it's formulated to protect the CDI diesel particle filters, I would not use it in a gasoline or non CDI diesel engine. |
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