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Posted 2/8/2008 10:37 PM
4x4abc



Date registered: Apr 2006
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Death Valley G-Adventures October 2008

I am in the process of putting together our October G-Adventure.

Death Valley is a true dream destination. It offers hundreds of miles of dirt roads, very remote canyons, salt lakes, snow covered mountains, the lowest point in the US, historic sites, enormous dunes, hot springs, petroglyphs, Charly Manson's hideout, darn hot weather - and some demanding off-road spots.

To allow the guys with more time to see much of what Death Valley has to offer I have the days from Oct 1 to Oct 12 set aside. For the interested workaholics a weekend participation is planned. For oversees participants it should be possible to hitch a ride with some of us. I am open for all suggestions. A participation in non G and rentals should be OK.

So, contact me off board to tell me what you would like to do/see and whether you are interested in participating - if so, how many days, how many people etc : adventure@4x4abc.com

http://4x4abc.com/4WD101/calendar8.html

saludos
Harald

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Posted 2/9/2008 1:36 AM
4x4abc



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RE: Death Valley G-Adventures October 2008

I am working on a new web site to provide all the information about this trip - maybe also a blog or forum so the interested G owners can communicate:
http://4x4abc.com/G-Class/Death.Valley
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Posted 2/9/2008 2:52 AM
G wizz
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Re: Death Valley G-Adventures October 2008

now I know why 50% of americans don't have a passport, why do they need to with such diversity with the countryside. (said with jealous look on his face) Although every US president does need to travel a bit before they decide they want to run for it. So that they understand England isn't just london (said with tongue in check)
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Posted 2/9/2008 8:08 AM
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Re: Death Valley G-Adventures October 2008

Harald,

Tempting, very tempting...

I still have some unfinished business in DV after breaking up our trip on Titus Canyon Road with two flat tires last year.

Flat tires

JW

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Posted 2/9/2008 9:10 AM
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Re: Death Valley G-Adventures October 2008

Jan Willem,

dirt road, big wheels, low side wall, "P" rated tires = flat tires



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Posted 2/9/2008 9:24 AM
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Re: Death Valley G-Adventures October 2008

maybe we'll see another UFO at the hot springs



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Posted 2/9/2008 9:27 AM
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Re: Death Valley G-Adventures October 2008

we'll definitely meet other good hearted travelers - the hot springs are kinda enchanted anyway



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Posted 2/9/2008 9:42 AM
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Re: Death Valley G-Adventures October 2008

I should have deflated. Still have the tiny stone here on my desk that did the damage. I not used to this kind of road surface here in NL, the tires had the strenght of a newspaper anyway.

JW
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Posted 2/9/2008 9:52 AM
4x4abc



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Re: Death Valley G-Adventures October 2008

one of the must visit places are the Eureka Dunes - tallest sand dune in California (almost 800 feet)
the hike up is very strenuous, but unusually rewarding: the dunes are "singing". An absolutely unreal experience. Sounds like a prop plane.
Getting down is fast and easy. A snow board would be best.
http://www.schweich.com/sbdA.html



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Posted 2/9/2008 11:02 AM
dai
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Re: Death Valley G-Adventures October 2008

Harald, very beautiful images. I wish I could join you but October is when I harvest winegrapes. The vineyards own me that month.

G wizz, is that london, texas?
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Posted 2/9/2008 11:26 AM
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Re: Death Valley G-Adventures October 2008

50% of americans don't have a passport?
45,384,520 passports have been issued over the last 5 years (they are only valid for 5 years)
that brings the passport rate to 15% with a population of 300 Mio
considering that a high number of passports is issued to military personnel, the passport rate is pretty low

source;
http://travel.state.gov/passport/services/stats/stats_890.html
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Posted 2/9/2008 12:06 PM
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Re: Death Valley G-Adventures October 2008

4x4abc - 2/9/2008 11:26 AM

50% of americans don't have a passport?
45,384,520 passports have been issued over the last 5 years (they are only valid for 5 years)
l


10 yrs for adults.

5 yrs for kids under 16.
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Posted 2/9/2008 1:55 PM
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sorry I meant 50% of educated americans
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Posted 2/10/2008 11:45 AM
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RE: Death Valley G-Adventures October 2008

I am looking forward to a DV outing in the Fall. I have attached some shots from various past trips. I usually go to Death Valley about 3 times/year. I can usually make it there in about 4.5hrs from my house, which makes it doable on most 3 or 4 day weekends for me.

The brothel and jail photos from a nearby ghosttown of Rhyolite, Nevada :-)

Cheers,
Leon


4x4abc - 2/8/2008 10:36 PM

I am working on a new web site to provide all the information about this trip - maybe also a blog or forum so the interested G owners can communicate:
http://4x4abc.com/G-Class/Death.Valley


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Posted 2/10/2008 12:34 PM
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RE: Death Valley G-Adventures October 2008

Harald,

This would be a wonderful trip. If it would be possible to join for one week, that would be about right for us. Getting to DV and back from the Pacific Nord West adds another week of travel and stops along the way. I have been to DV three times. It is a superior experience and the heat is therapeutic!

I like the site that you have started since it seems that you will take care of permits and the like, and you have a category that will cover things to bring. Good idea.

  tom

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T.Schuhe - 2/10/2008 12:34 PM

Harald,

This would be a wonderful trip. If it would be possible to join for one week, that would be about right for us. Getting to DV and back from the Pacific Nord West adds another week of travel and stops along the way. I have been to DV three times. It is a superior experience and the heat is therapeutic!

I like the site that you have started since it seems that you will take care of permits and the like, and you have a category that will cover things to bring. Good idea.

tom



Woww, Tom! If it takes you a week tio go to and from Washington satae, how long should I allow back and forth from Atlanta? A month?
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Posted 2/10/2008 12:52 PM
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T.Schuhe - 2/10/2008 9:34 AM

Harald,

This would be a wonderful trip. If it would be possible to join for one week, that would be about right for us. Getting to DV and back from the Pacific Nord West adds another week of travel and stops along the way. I have been to DV three times. It is a superior experience and the heat is therapeutic!

I like the site that you have started since it seems that you will take care of permits and the like, and you have a category that will cover things to bring. Good idea.

tom



Tom,

and he's the best cook northeast of Trona, I have known for years:biggrin:
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Posted 2/10/2008 1:35 PM
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RE: Death Valley G-Adventures October 2008

I'll be delighted to cook - but we might run into trouble with that

the county (Eldorado) approached me last year to apply for a restaurant permit since they noticed on my Rubicon web site that I am cooking for all
So I have to provide three sink dish washing, restrooms for my employees (what employees?), thermometer for food, professional gas stove, etc etc etc
love our government - too many paper pushers

Death Valley is pretty nasty with permits as well (had to jump through hoops, including getting the governor involved, when I did the permits for the last big event) - so, I'll not publish any cooking offers. And the Ranger will flag you down when he sees more than 3 cars in a group. They know me by now and I can't claim, we just met by accident.
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Posted 2/10/2008 1:48 PM
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RE: Death Valley G-Adventures October 2008

Harald,


me and my wife will really like to join you for a week or so but due to some not cleared yet
citizenship issues I am not sure we can make it. Anyway, what is the registration date deadline?
How long drive to from lets say Niagara falls?
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Posted 2/10/2008 3:01 PM
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RE: Death Valley G-Adventures October 2008

Hi Dutch,

One of the reasons I own a Gwagen is to slow down. The fifth gear in my Gwagen is for when I have no choice but to take an interstate. Interstate highways are colorless, and an intellectual wasteland (see T.S. Ellott)..., so, I really prefer to take black or blue line roads whenever I can. If I want to get somewhere guickly, I take the BMW with a radar detector. I have made it to the East Coast in 3 days, but if I were fitted with a catheter and take stay awake drugs, I could maybe do it faster. But, why do that to myself when on holiday. My life is way too stressful as it is. Life is not NASCAR.

So, the places we will stop along the was include friends and relatives...never more than a short stay, perhaps a meal, good wine, and off we go. I always plan on being an easy guest...and if I know that I am doing the cooking, I bring fresh salmon in the cooler, and make a sauce that even I think is out of this world. (I also do real German cooking, my neigbors generally line-up at the door at our annual open house (Jan 1st) when this is on the menu.)

MRE's are fine for the trail, as long as the water,wine, or beer is slightly chilled. In the desert - wrap in a damp cloth and allow the dry air to create cooling.

Cheers!

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