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W5YK
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Date registered: May 2006
Location: San Diego
Vehicle(s): 2002 G500, Unimog U2450,
Posts: 543
| RE: Pioneer AVIC-Z110BT installed in 2002 G500
I like the look of that Dietz interface. I had not seen it before.
I already purchased a PAC interface - it is the SWI-PS
http://www.pac-audio.com/productDetails.aspx?ProductId=210&Category...
So I will try that one, Karl can try the Metra he just ordered, and G1979 maybe can try the Dietz? Then we compare notes. I suspect the Dietz will come top, but let's see. |
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thearc
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Date registered: Jan 2010
Location: Vancouver BC
Vehicle(s): 2003 G500
Posts: 37
| RE: Pioneer AVIC-Z110BT installed in 2002 G500
W5YK - 3/29/2010 10:00 PM
I like the look of that Dietz interface. I had not seen it before.
I already purchased a PAC interface - it is the SWI-PS
http://www.pac-audio.com/productDetails.aspx?ProductId=210&Category...
So I will try that one, Karl can try the Metra he just ordered, and G1979 maybe can try the Dietz? Then we compare notes. I suspect the Dietz will come top, but let's see.
I tried the PAC interface on my recent aftermarket install of my kenwood headunit in a 03 G500 and it didn't work, best of luck with the Dietz! If it works let me know I want one! |
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gregschultz
Date registered: Jun 2006
Location: Roswell, GA
Vehicle(s): '86 300GD; 08 ML 320 cdi; 05 E320cdi
| RE: Pioneer AVIC-Z110BT installed in 2002 G500
Pretty slick. I have an '05 E320cdi with no sat radio and no iPod interface; and I've been reluctant to add it for the $$ that the dealer requires. This looks like a possible solution - totally non-gwagen related, but thanks anyway!
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oskar
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Date registered: Sep 2006
Location: Lyons, CO
Vehicle(s): 1981 280GE, 2002 G500, 280SE 4.5, Audi A4 1.8T
Posts: 708
| RE: Pioneer AVIC-Z110BT installed in 2002 G500
its a few day now that you have that AVIC-Z110BT ... so may I ask ..
How is ypur experience with the unit, especially navigation?
Reason I am asking is:
In the 2002 G500 I bought a few weeks ago came with an Alpine unit installed.
However, the maps for that unit are absolutely of date and according to Alpine support, Alpine wil NOT offer a map update.
They offer an hardware update to their NVE-M300 "Navigation Drive" - however the reviews for that thing are everything but encouraging see http://www.crutchfield.com/p_500NVEM300/Alpine-NVE-M300.html?tp=147...
So I wonder whether I would be better off just putting the Pioneer in
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fernweh
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Calabasas, CA - Centenario, BCS - Luebeck, Germany
Vehicle(s): Few Mercedes-Benz, a Toyota Amphibious and a Vespa
| RE: Pioneer AVIC-Z110BT installed in 2002 G500
oskar - 4/7/2010 11:40 AM
its a few day now that you have that AVIC-Z110BT ... so may I ask ..
How is ypur experience with the unit, especially navigation?
Reason I am asking is:
In the 2002 G500 I bought a few weeks ago came with an Alpine unit installed.
However, the maps for that unit are absolutely of date and according to Alpine support, Alpine wil NOT offer a map update.
They offer an hardware update to their NVE-M300 "Navigation Drive" - however the reviews for that thing are everything but encouraging see http://www.crutchfield.com/p_500NVEM300/Alpine-NVE-M300.html?tp=147...
So I wonder whether I would be better off just putting the Pioneer in
Oskar
Oskar,
I have a very nice working Comand unit for sale, with voice and bluetooth phone interfaces...... 
Karl |
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oskar
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Date registered: Sep 2006
Location: Lyons, CO
Vehicle(s): 1981 280GE, 2002 G500, 280SE 4.5, Audi A4 1.8T
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| RE: Pioneer AVIC-Z110BT installed in 2002 G500
fernweh - 4/7/2010 12:29 PM
oskar - 4/7/2010 11:40 AM
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So I wonder whether I would be better off just putting the Pioneer in
Oskar
Oskar,
I have a very nice working Comand unit for sale, with voice and bluetooth phone interfaces......
Karl
might be an option, but only in case the original wire harness is still intact - which I doubt.
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W5YK
Extreme Veteran
Date registered: May 2006
Location: San Diego
Vehicle(s): 2002 G500, Unimog U2450,
Posts: 543
| RE: Pioneer AVIC-Z110BT installed in 2002 G500
oskar - 4/7/2010 11:40 AM
its a few day now that you have that AVIC-Z110BT ... so may I ask ..
How is ypur experience with the unit, especially navigation?
Oskar,
The Nav part is very good. The maps are from Tele Atlas, which is owned by Tom Tom. They are up-to-date as far as I can tell from looking at new roads in my neighborhood. The appearance of the maps is quite good. The user interface is also good, since there is a big touch screen to use.
I also like the use of a speed signal from the G500 - it makes the Nav display much more accurate, especially in town, since it can determine your exact position using the street data and your speed data. It is much better than GPS on it's own.
The trail recording feature is not as good as I was hoping. You are limited to about 1,000 points I think. Also, the format is proprietary to Pioneer, and you must use their software to view the tracks. It's better than nothing though.
If you like, I can post some screen photos of maps, at your request, to show areas you know about.
Overall, this is a really good unit, I wish I had changed earlier. I don't miss the Comand at all. |
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oskar
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Date registered: Sep 2006
Location: Lyons, CO
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| RE: Pioneer AVIC-Z110BT installed in 2002 G500
W5YK - 4/7/2010 3:11 PM
oskar - 4/7/2010 11:40 AM
its a few day now that you have that AVIC-Z110BT ... so may I ask ..
How is ypur experience with the unit, especially navigation?
Oskar,
The Nav part is very good. The maps are from Tele Atlas, which is owned by Tom Tom. They are up-to-date as far as I can tell from looking at new roads in my neighborhood. The appearance of the maps is quite good. The user interface is also good, since there is a big touch screen to use.
I also like the use of a speed signal from the G500 - it makes the Nav display much more accurate, especially in town, since it can determine your exact position using the street data and your speed data. It is much better than GPS on it's own.
The trail recording feature is not as good as I was hoping. You are limited to about 1,000 points I think. Also, the format is proprietary to Pioneer, and you must use their software to view the tracks. It's better than nothing though.
If you like, I can post some screen photos of maps, at your request, to show areas you know about.
Overall, this is a really good unit, I wish I had changed earlier. I don't miss the Comand at all.
I am taking you on theis offer. check you PM, please
thx.
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thearc
Member
Date registered: Jan 2010
Location: Vancouver BC
Vehicle(s): 2003 G500
Posts: 37
| Re: Pioneer AVIC-Z110BT installed in 2002 G500
Or you could go Garmin, In my opinion they are the best and have the most updates and the largest POI collection.
I installed a Kenwood unit in my 03 G500 that uses Garmin maps. they are up datable via Garmins web site or if one is so inclined free from Bittorrent users.
Also Garmin has a large POI community covering every POI you could think of http://www.poi-factory.com/poifiles
Here is my install thread http://www.pointedthree.com/disc/forums/showthread.php?tid=16098 |
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norsecarnut
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Date registered: Apr 2009
Location: Seattle, WA
Vehicle(s): 07 Rover LR3, 08 Audi S4Avant,04 Disco2,96 Disco1
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| RE: Pioneer AVIC-Z110BT installed in 2002 G500
Would you mind testing a location for me that would not come up on the latest 09 command nav? It is on the Oregon coast, "Haceta Head Lighthouse Bed & Breakfast" or at least the light house. It's on the shore just slightly above the main highway west from Eugene.
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W5YK
Extreme Veteran
Date registered: May 2006
Location: San Diego
Vehicle(s): 2002 G500, Unimog U2450,
Posts: 543
| RE: Pioneer AVIC-Z110BT installed in 2002 G500
Jwestpro - 4/7/2010 6:01 PM
Would you mind testing a location for me that would not come up on the latest 09 command nav? It is on the Oregon coast, "Haceta Head Lighthouse Bed & Breakfast" or at least the light house. It's on the shore just slightly above the main highway west from Eugene.
Thanks.
No problem at all. It has that place in the database, under the category "Bed & Breakfast". Pics attached
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W5YK
Extreme Veteran
Date registered: May 2006
Location: San Diego
Vehicle(s): 2002 G500, Unimog U2450,
Posts: 543
| RE: Pioneer AVIC-Z110BT installed in 2002 G500
Here is something to be aware of if you replace the Comand.
The AM/FM antenna is on the rear-most driver's side window. It has an amplifier mounted in the headliner immediately above. The amplifier gets 12V from the Comand. So be sure to hook that wire to 12V if you put a new radio in, or else you will get weak FM and no AM. You can use the connection on the new radio for a powered antenna to get the 12V.
Thanks to Fernweh for making me aware of this. We installed a Pioneer in his G500 last week and it only took about 3 hours or so.
Also, the steering wheel button interface that Fernweh bought, the Axxess ASWC, worked very well. I bought one also. It lets you program vol+, vol-, phone on, phone off, and if you like you can use the up and down arrows on the left of the steering wheel for next/previous track/station (but if you do that, the instrument cluster menu scrolls up and down too). |
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W5YK
Extreme Veteran
Date registered: May 2006
Location: San Diego
Vehicle(s): 2002 G500, Unimog U2450,
Posts: 543
| RE: Pioneer AVIC-Z110BT installed in 2002 G500
Here, for reference, is a photo of the harness that I referenced wired up to the Pioneer harness. So you make this as shown, then plug one end into the radio, the other end into your G500, and you are done. Much easier than trying to splice it all together behind the dash.
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4x4abc
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: La Paz, Baja California, Mexico
Vehicle(s): 02 G500
| RE: Pioneer AVIC-Z110BT installed in 2002 G500
pretty slick, Richard! |
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thearc
Member
Date registered: Jan 2010
Location: Vancouver BC
Vehicle(s): 2003 G500
Posts: 37
| RE: Pioneer AVIC-Z110BT installed in 2002 G500
W5YK - 4/20/2010 12:16 AM
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Also, the steering wheel button interface that Fernweh bought, the Axxess ASWC, worked very well. I bought one also. It lets you program vol+, vol-, phone on, phone off, and if you like you can use the up and down arrows on the left of the steering wheel for next/previous track/station (but if you do that, the instrument cluster menu scrolls up and down too).
Wow great news!
I have a kenwood unit that I though I couldn't get steering wheel control. On there site it says it works with Kenwood headunits as well. Was it easy to install this extra component? also is it this model?
http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_22808_Axxess+ASWC.html |
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W5YK
Extreme Veteran
Date registered: May 2006
Location: San Diego
Vehicle(s): 2002 G500, Unimog U2450,
Posts: 543
| RE: Pioneer AVIC-Z110BT installed in 2002 G500
Yep, that's the right one. It definitely works with the 2002 G500. You can reprogram the buttons the way you want them. |
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thearc
Member
Date registered: Jan 2010
Location: Vancouver BC
Vehicle(s): 2003 G500
Posts: 37
| RE: Pioneer AVIC-Z110BT installed in 2002 G500
W5YK - 4/22/2010 4:07 PM
Yep, that's the right one. It definitely works with the 2002 G500. You can reprogram the buttons the way you want them.
Looking at the wiring instructions in the manual it says you need to know the color code of the cables in your vehicle...I don't know this, do you have or is there somewhere I can get this information?
Edited by thearc 4/22/2010 6:12 PM
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BlueG
Elite Veteran
Date registered: Aug 2009
Location: DC
Vehicle(s): 2003 G500
Posts: 714
| Re: Pioneer AVIC-Z110BT installed in 2002 G500
Quick question - do you lose any functionality when you remove the COMAND and replace it with the Pioneer? Seems like you can keep the steering wheel buttons all working as they are labeled right?
What about any interface between the COMMAND and the display screen in the speedometer? |
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fernweh
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Calabasas, CA - Centenario, BCS - Luebeck, Germany
Vehicle(s): Few Mercedes-Benz, a Toyota Amphibious and a Vespa
| RE: Pioneer AVIC-Z110BT installed in 2002 G500
thearc - 4/22/2010 3:08 PM
W5YK - 4/22/2010 4:07 PM
Yep, that's the right one. It definitely works with the 2002 G500. You can reprogram the buttons the way you want them.
Looking at the wiring instructions in the manual it says you need to know the color code of the cables in your vehicle...I don't know this, do you have or is there somewhere I can get this information?
Look for a small shielded cable with a red and a brown wire - the red goes to the pink and the brown to the blue/pink of the new interface
Karl |
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W5YK
Extreme Veteran
Date registered: May 2006
Location: San Diego
Vehicle(s): 2002 G500, Unimog U2450,
Posts: 543
| RE: Pioneer AVIC-Z110BT installed in 2002 G500
fernweh - 4/22/2010 4:11 PM
Look for a small shielded cable with a red and a brown wire - the red goes to the pink and the brown to the blue/pink of the new interface
Karl
This cable can be found connected to connector C2 (that was plugged into the Comand). Pins 8 and 9. |
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