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| How much would you pay for a diesel G..for 07/08
IF one was to be made available..? By the way Sept/Oct looking like intro for 07 G's. Only 500's and 55's to be released. No 550, 63 or diesel yet. All the updates spoken of in other posts will be coming. C-Class bits, switches, DVD, headlights, wheels, colors, more comfortable seats, etc. No other news to report. |
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Rich
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Date registered: May 2006
Location: Elkins Park, PA USA
Vehicle(s): 1985 280GE cabrio
Posts: 75
| RE: How much would you pay for a diesel G..for 07/08
Thanks for the update...since I am G-less and want a diesel (again)..I guess whatever MBUSA prices them up 
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| Re: How much would you pay for a diesel G..for 07/08
Seriously guys...what $ figure do you feel would be fair if the 500 is $81K and the 55 is $105K. Please let the board know..? Thanks... |
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DUTCH
Administrator Doppelgänger
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: US, GA, Atlanta
Vehicle(s): 2015 Audi Q7 3.0 TDI,2018 Sprinter
Posts: 9963
| Re: How much would you pay for a diesel G..for 07/08
$65k |
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Rich
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Date registered: May 2006
Location: Elkins Park, PA USA
Vehicle(s): 1985 280GE cabrio
Posts: 75
| Re: How much would you pay for a diesel G..for 07/08
90K |
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Rich
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Date registered: May 2006
Location: Elkins Park, PA USA
Vehicle(s): 1985 280GE cabrio
Posts: 75
| Re: How much would you pay for a diesel G..for 07/08
I figured the diesel would be a little more than the gas engine |
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Roch207
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Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Palmetto State
Vehicle(s): 2005 E320 CDI, 2010 Silverado 2500HD
Posts: 3749
| RE: How much would you pay for a diesel G..for 07/08
Yea but romours were this could be a "stripped" G. In that case it would have to be positioned between the GL and the G500. I'll put my money at $65-$70. |
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mb230s
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: SWFL
Vehicle(s): G-less for now, vintage MBs, FJ40
| Re: How much would you pay for a diesel G..for 07/08
Depends if it is fully optioned and if it has the BlueTec diesel engine. BlueTec adds several thousand to the cost. |
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Braingears
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Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: St Petersburg, FL
Vehicle(s): G320 & ML320
Posts: 1450
| Re: How much would you pay for a diesel G..for 07/08
mb230s - 5/24/2006 6:39 PM Depends if it is fully optioned and if it has the BlueTec diesel engine. BlueTec adds several thousand to the cost. Yea, can you imagine the additional testing of the BlueTec while submerged or fording a river?  |
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DUTCH
Administrator Doppelgänger
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: US, GA, Atlanta
Vehicle(s): 2015 Audi Q7 3.0 TDI,2018 Sprinter
Posts: 9963
| Re: How much would you pay for a diesel G..for 07/08
Braingears - 5/24/2006 6:54 PM
mb230s - 5/24/2006 6:39 PM Depends if it is fully optioned and if it has the BlueTec diesel engine. BlueTec adds several thousand to the cost. Yea, can you imagine the additional testing of the BlueTec while submerged or fording a river?
Another is the mandate to return to the dealer to have the auxillary urea tank filled.
I would much prefer not having to darken their doors after delivery. |
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BrentG500
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Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: US, TX, Dallas
Vehicle(s): 2004 G500 (gone)
Posts: 449
| Re: How much would you pay for a diesel G..for 07/08
Anywhere from $45K to $65K. |
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T.Schuhe
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Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Olympia, Washington State, USA
Vehicle(s): 460 1985 LWB 300GD five speed
Posts: 711
| Re: How much would you pay for a diesel G..for 07/08
For those of you who are not MB Club of America members, there was an excellent article in last edition of The Star, the club magizine, regarding the new diesels - BlueTec. This diesel is a rather complex system and requires some very special services that are far from being ready in the US, outside of the MB dealer network. After reading the article, I went out to my garage and hugged my old diesel G. It may be slow, but with biodiesel is runs great, clean, no longer even smokes when I push it harder, and offers me just what I like. I would still consider buying a new G diesel, however DC is do whatever they need to do to sell any MB auto in California, and the handfull of other states where BlueTec systems will allow them to do so. So, they will be expensive and I doubt you will see one for less than $75,000 US, perhaps more.
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G350DT
Date registered: Dec 1899
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| Re: How much would you pay for a diesel G..for 07/08
From what I have seen in the US, for some reason the Diesel is just not an engine that sells well other then people like us. My wife once asked who the hell would make their own fuel (WVO, Bio etc) My answer was Old G wagon and Unimog owners. That made sense to her. For some reason the majority of people in the US look at the Diesel as a truck, 18 wheeler engine not a car engine. Now if you add that in mose areas Diesel is usually more then Super Unleaded that will turn more people away. I would be suprised if the cost of importing a Diesel G to the US would be profitable to MB thus I would guess it is not going to happen. Jeep, LR and others have Diesel cars available and there are very very few in the US. Diesel fuel needs to be offered at less then RUG fuel to have any chance of a Diesel car ever taking off in the US. |
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KERR
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| Re: How much would you pay for a diesel G..for 07/08
the good news is IF they build one and people dont like or buy them like they did the diesel vw's then they should get cheap quick for those of us that dont buy new cars |
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ewalberg
Expert
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Past: San Francisco. Present: Germany
Vehicle(s): 2000 g500
Posts: 1887
| RE: How much would you pay for a diesel G..for 07/08
You know the thing which keeps getting to me is the dealers and salesmen. I'm finding more and more often people ask me if mine is diesel. Part of it seems to be for no other reason than the body style... it seems people associate the boxiness with deisel motors. Emotionally being able to keep the cost under 70k out the door sounds good to me... because lots of vehicles get into the 60k range...
One of the things i think the non japanese auto makers have really taken advantage of is the TKD version. Sell the deisel with all the trim like MBUSA wants, but also sell one version which is truely as stipped as possible... and don't give people the "option" to gussie that up. Like the honda element. You have two trims. Luxo or Stripped with no other options but some body cladding, and it makes an almost a 20% difference in price and people still buy the stripper. if you can knock 10k off the sticker? with a stipper i think you'll sell more trucks overall, and it shouldn't impact profitabilty much because the production line has to run no matter what.
Will more of the deisels sold have all the whistles? Most likely, but there's guys with money driving their top trimmed trucks off road now, and if they had a stipper they just might own 2 instead. One for town and one for the mud... the people that bought one 80k truck usually have the disposable income to afford a second one to make a toy out of. There's at least a one regular on the board that owns 3 g-wagens and he doesn't even go "offroading".
If you wanna do trim package, consider selling an "extreme" package which consists of the canadian military spring lift with bits welded to the frame which correct the trailing arm angle, and throw some 33" BFG/At's under it. It would look great, bring some new and different attention to the truck (it'll lure more american truck owners, which should be a target market for this vehicle despite my wanting to admit it), and would still be very functional. I don't like the idea too much because then i'll be upstaged, but if you want a marketing angle to sell some trucks with technology already being built into other trucks coming off the line, there you go. |
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Braingears
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Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: St Petersburg, FL
Vehicle(s): G320 & ML320
Posts: 1450
| Re: How much would you pay for a diesel G..for 07/08
I would even buy a stripped down G-Wagon that was relabeled as a freightliner or dodge. They can market it with the Sprinter. Since the Sprinter is already 100% diesel, they will know exactly what they are getting. A superior vehicle with capabilities... 
Edited by Braingears 5/25/2006 10:09 PM
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Adoni
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Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Sacramento, CA
Vehicle(s): '00 G500, '15 C300 4Matic, '06 L322 G4
Posts: 1283
| Re: How much would you pay for a diesel G..for 07/08
My current daily driver is an ML with the G-Wagen as a toy, I also have the CLK. My lease on the ML is up soon, of course in 4 years I've put 100k miles on the car, about 20k over my allowance, anyways thats beside the point. The G is the hunting car/toy. However, I can't/won't drive the 280 G everyday, yet if MB priced a stripped diesel G 65k or under, I would be standing right there with my money. By stripped I mean 17" rims or less, preferably 16's, but I can deal with 17's, Leather would be ok, but I want the option of rubber floors like in my 280 and no navigation. My girlfriends are the only people who have ever liked navigation in the car. I also dont care about all the body colored jewelry, its more stuff to get ripped off, put some mud flaps on it, a decent radio, these days I almost exclusively listen to knbr 680 out of SF. Give me a the oppurtunity to have afairly useful, moderately nice extremely capable daily driver with the ability to average 20mpg on the freeway and I'll spend my money. A factory winch option would be awesome too. |
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ufotwuk
Date registered: Dec 1899
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| Re: How much would you pay for a diesel G..for 07/08
I'd probably be willing to part with $55,000 to $65,000 for a new diesel G...and I'd probably think seriously about selling my G-500 to get some cash together...
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Thai
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| Re: How much would you pay for a diesel G..for 07/08
Whatever my G would cost on trade-in....oh crap, nevermind...i think that i can get a Kia Sorento instead! Woohoo! |
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Ed Mclass
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Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Nashville, Tennessee
Vehicle(s): 1958 180a, 2010 GLK, 2000 G 500, 2005 SLK 350
Posts: 1215
| RE: How much would you pay for a diesel G..for 07/08
Duthch makes a good point. Who wants to go back to get the truck urea tank refilled? As I understand it, the truck runs just fine without it. So the question is who keeps up with whether it is filled or not? The STAR story does an excelent job explaining how his system works. |
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