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H1LM002G55
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| RE: My Personal Impressions
DUTCH - 10/2/2012 11:58 AM
H1LM002G55 - 10/2/2012 11:18 AM
For half the price of Speaker LED lamps, you can buy a very nice set of Hella or Cibie lamps from Daniel Stern...
I've had both Hella and Cibie. The Bosch Euro Spec H4 lamps with city light are far superior.
Wow. Good to know. Did you get these from Daniel Stern? Daniel Stern never offered me these lamps at the time I ordered... |
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autonovice
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Location: New York City
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| Re: JW Speaker 8700 LED Headlamps / HeadLights in Action
wonder if it it is possible to drill a hole into the boy for integrated parking light which commonly
avail on european models. |
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DUTCH
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| RE: My Personal Impressions
H1LM002G55 - 10/2/2012 12:54 PM
DUTCH - 10/2/2012 11:58 AM
H1LM002G55 - 10/2/2012 11:18 AM
For half the price of Speaker LED lamps, you can buy a very nice set of Hella or Cibie lamps from Daniel Stern...
I've had both Hella and Cibie. The Bosch Euro Spec H4 lamps with city light are far superior.
Wow. Good to know. Did you get these from Daniel Stern? Daniel Stern never offered me these lamps at the time I ordered...
He did not normally sell them, but could get them.
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DUTCH
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| Re: JW Speaker 8700 LED Headlamps / HeadLights in Action
autonovice - 10/2/2012 2:06 PM
wonder if it it is possible to drill a hole into the boy for integrated parking light which commonly
avail on european models.
Speaker LED's. Not at all possible. |
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zimm
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| RE: My Personal Impressions
DUTCH - 10/2/2012 9:49 AM
Just did 4,100 miles with the Speaker LED's in my G-Class, over half of it at night. Lights were aimed with an Optical Beam Setter at my local Porsche dealer.
Impressions:
1.) Low beams seem to be somewhat better than the H4 Bosch city light lamps I had before.
2.) High beams are too much of a pencil spot. They do not spread enough at distance. They do reach out quite far, but it is way too narrow.
Overall Impression: Relatively decent lights, but definitely not worth the price.
Ymmv.
danke. i was hesitant at buy-in price. the point of a headlamp is first and foremost light. other considerations like reduced load are secondary, and in cases where the replacements don't at least match the OEM, nonexistent.
i'll wait to see how the next generation performs, as there is no doubt there will be one.
Edited by zimm 10/2/2012 5:16 PM
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H1LM002G55
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| RE: My Personal Impressions
zimm - 10/2/2012 5:07 PM
the point of a headlamp is first and foremost light. other considerations like reduced load are secondary,
That may be the case for you, but that is not always the case. The U.S. military has been doing all it can to reduce electrical load on vehicle charging systems because of all of the other gear that needs to run simultaneously. Not to mention cooling systems, etc...for use in desert climates.
That is why the Truck-Lite LEDs are now in heavy use, along with survivability of some of the LED/SMD boards inside the lamp even if damaged by a bullet, shrapnel, etc...They have redundancy that traditional, halogen lamps do not have. |
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DUTCH
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| RE: My Personal Impressions
zimm - 10/2/2012 5:07 PM
i'll wait to see how the next generation performs, as there is no doubt there will be one.
I've been advised by an unimpeachable source that there are several new 7" LED headlights in the works; and one of them is supposed to be "Ausgezeichnet!!". |
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H1LM002G55
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Date registered: Mar 2010
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| Re: JW Speaker 8700 LED Headlamps / HeadLights in Action
Looking forward to it. I would like to buy them to try them out as well. I am still happy with the Speaker LED headlights. The halogen Hella lamps on the G55 do "penetrate" longer distances better at night. The lateral dispersion is not as good. At least in my experience. I did not align Speaker LED headlights with a headlight alignment machine like you did. I parked 25 feet away from a wall and "eyeballed it" at night. |
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BlueG
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Date registered: Aug 2009
Location: DC
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| Re: JW Speaker 8700 LED Headlamps / HeadLights in Action
Has anyone had a problem with error codes on the 2002+ models yet? I am considering the JW Speaker upgrade and would ideally like to find some of the glass lens models as I believe some of you guys have. Seems like the evolution is more popular online? |
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DUTCH
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| Re: JW Speaker 8700 LED Headlamps / HeadLights in Action
BlueG - 5/25/2013 9:54 AM
Has anyone had a problem with error codes on the 2002+ models yet? I am considering the JW Speaker upgrade and would ideally like to find some of the glass lens models as I believe some of you guys have. Seems like the evolution is more popular online?
There are no more glass lens JW Speaker LED headlights. They are all now made of polycarbonate. |
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BlueG
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| Re: JW Speaker 8700 LED Headlamps / HeadLights in Action
That's a shame but thanks anyway Dutch. Is there a glass alternative or will they all be polycarbonate now? |
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shakir
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Date registered: Dec 2006
Location: London , UK
Vehicle(s): 1986 280 GEL manual, lpg.1991 300GEL AUTO
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| Re: JW Speaker 8700 LED Headlamps / HeadLights in Action
I am contemplating a led headlight upgrade on my G class. And realize that there are new models in the market since this blog was posted. Like the new Truck lite phase 7 (is it correct ?)
and most importantly how we fit them in the G wagen ? Is 911 buckets the only way?
Thanks for all the input
Edited by shakir 7/17/2013 7:24 AM
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DUTCH
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| Re: JW Speaker 8700 LED Headlamps / HeadLights in Action
shakir - 7/17/2013 7:23 AM
I am contemplating a led headlight upgrade on my G class. And realize that there are new models in the market since this blog was posted.
I was advised by a leading automotive lighting authority that a new LED headlight was in the works which is superior to anything on the market. I'll check with him to see if there is any progress in that direction.
That being said, the Speaker lights are considered to be superior to anything else currently on the market. They are a definite improvement over standard headlights, although I'm not sure the improvement is commensurate with the cost.
Yes, they do require headlight buckets for installation on the G. |
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shakir
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| Re: JW Speaker 8700 LED Headlamps / HeadLights in Action
ok i am waiting for your input about the lamps and the adapters |
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shakir
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| Re: JW Speaker 8700 LED Headlamps / HeadLights in Action
there was a test /review done by harley enthusiasts between Truck ie phase 6 and phase 7 and JW speakers
overall winner was phase 7 Trucklite.
i will post the link if i can find it again. |
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grazza
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| RE: JW Speaker 8700 LED Headlamps / HeadLights in Action
I see there is another manufacturer, Norden.
http://www.noldengmbh.de/en/company/news/45-7-led-headlight
A guy on eBay is selling them for a G.
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DUTCH
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| Re: JW Speaker 8700 LED Headlamps / HeadLights in Action
shakir - 7/17/2013 8:10 AM
ok i am waiting for your input about the lamps and the adapters
I sent my friend an email to ask about the new ones he had told me about. Here is his response:
They're not yet on the market. Still in development. The latest prototypes I've seen make me smile BIG.
Latest 7" round headlamp on the market is this one:
http://www.pmlights.com/products.cfm?cId=1&fId=58&pId=3748
I haven't got my samples yet to evaluate; in theory it should be rather good, but it definitely produces an American beam pattern, not European for those who (improperly, IMO ) adjudge on that point alone.
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Redbull Addict
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Date registered: May 2006
Location: Morgan Hill, California USA
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| Re: JW Speaker 8700 LED Headlamps / HeadLights in Action
Dutch,
Any updates on this topic?
thanks in advance! |
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DUTCH
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| Re: JW Speaker 8700 LED Headlamps / HeadLights in Action
Redbull Addict - 12/1/2013 1:46 AM
Dutch,
Any updates on this topic?
thanks in advance!
I stand by my original observation/opinion that on low beam they are better than the lights used by the Federalizers, but not worth their price; and I do not like the high beam pattern.
I can't compare them to the lights in the newer G's. |
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ve7hhs
Member
Date registered: Nov 2011
Location: Abbotsford,BC,Canada
Vehicle(s): 2005 G500 Grand #042 / 2009 BMW 335d
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| Re: JW Speaker 8700 LED Headlamps / HeadLights in Action
Here is a comparison from a frame grab on my Gopro Hero 3 camera at 1am on the same stretch of road. Top of the frame are the stock G500 lights and bottom is the JW Speaker 8700 Evolution.
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