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4x4abc
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: La Paz, Baja California, Mexico
Vehicle(s): 02 G500
| Re: Nissens Radiator on a G500 ?
finally unpacked the Nissens a couple of days ago to drop it into a cleaned engine bay.
Mayor disappointment!
Radiator is so damaged that it won't even drop into place if I were to ignore the damages.
Outside package without a flaw.
Inside package shows several severe impacts onto the radiator's feet
Aside from that the unit is warped by about 1"
Since the radiator is already in Mexico even a free replacement will cost me $200 in shipping to La Paz
not happy!
real images here: https://carlosnpainter.smugmug.com/Cars/Nissens-radiator/
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DUTCH
Administrator Doppelgänger
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: US, GA, Atlanta
Vehicle(s): 2015 Audi Q7 3.0 TDI,2018 Sprinter
Posts: 9963
| Re: Nissens Radiator on a G500 ?
What a disappointment!
If the outside was flawless and the damage was internal, I think I would try to back charge the supplier on my credit card as being damaged before it shipped.
A real bummer! |
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fly4x
New user
Date registered: May 2010
Location: Gold Country, Sierra Nevadas
Vehicle(s): 2003 G500
Posts: 3
| Re: Nissens Radiator on a G500 ?
That is disheartening to hear. I just purchased a Nissens radiator for my 2003 G500. After reading your post, I plan on taking a picture of a sealed box prior to opening just in case it is poor packing on the part of manufacturer and not careless handling of shipper.
As an aside, did you replace the water pump while the radiator was out? I plan on a revamp of entire coolant system (thermostat, hoses, water pump) at the same time. I have 200,000 miles on the original water pump and while I practice the art of "if it aint broke, don't fix it" as the original owner I know none have ever been replaced.
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DUTCH
Administrator Doppelgänger
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: US, GA, Atlanta
Vehicle(s): 2015 Audi Q7 3.0 TDI,2018 Sprinter
Posts: 9963
| Re: Nissens Radiator on a G500 ?
fly4x - 11/17/2018 12:48 PM
That is disheartening to hear. I just purchased a Nissens radiator for my 2003 G500. After reading your post, I plan on taking a picture of a sealed box prior to opening just in case it is poor packing on the part of manufacturer and not careless handling of shipper.
Please report back what you find. Thanks. |
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fly4x
New user
Date registered: May 2010
Location: Gold Country, Sierra Nevadas
Vehicle(s): 2003 G500
Posts: 3
| Re: Nissens Radiator on a G500 ?
Update
Received the Nissen radiator via fed ex. The shipping box appeared undamaged so I was very hopeful the product was in good shape. However, upon opening the box containing the radiator I was disappointed to find little in the way of packing material to protect the product. Turns out it was damaged in same fashion as Harold’s. Top of radiator crushed about one incch on right top. My take is Nissen is not properly packaging the product for shipment. I returned the product and am shelling out extra $ for the Behr. Live and learn |
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DUTCH
Administrator Doppelgänger
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: US, GA, Atlanta
Vehicle(s): 2015 Audi Q7 3.0 TDI,2018 Sprinter
Posts: 9963
| Re: Nissens Radiator on a G500 ?
fly4x - 11/22/2018 4:57 PM
Update
Received the Nissen radiator via fed ex. The shipping box appeared undamaged so I was very hopeful the product was in good shape. However, upon opening the box containing the radiator I was disappointed to find little in the way of packing material to protect the product. Turns out it was damaged in same fashion as Harold’s. Top of radiator crushed about one incch on right top. My take is Nissen is not properly packaging the product for shipment. I returned the product and am shelling out extra $ for the Behr. Live and learn
What a damned shame! Thanks for reporting back. |
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H1LM002G55
Expert
Date registered: Mar 2010
Location: S Florida / Geneva / Jeddah
Vehicle(s): 500 GE, G55, LM002, H1
Posts: 1796
| Re: Nissens Radiator on a G500 ?
The liability is on the shipper, gentlemen. That's what insurance is for. |
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4x4abc
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: La Paz, Baja California, Mexico
Vehicle(s): 02 G500
| Re: Nissens Radiator on a G500 ?
since my radiator had been shipped to Mexico there was no simple way to ship it back and get a (possibly damaged as well) replacement
so, a friend of mine carefully repaired the bent sections
radiator is in and works fine
the 2 extra cooler in/outlet connections on the left are very close to an oil line
too close for comfort and the in/outlet have very sharp edges
I secured them with plastic caps I found in my garage collection
during my search for a solution I found a manufacturer in Mexico who sells the Nissen radiator (without the Nissen name stamps) for $150
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4x4abc
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: La Paz, Baja California, Mexico
Vehicle(s): 02 G500
| Re: Nissens Radiator on a G500 ?
here is the Mexico source:
https://tinyurl.com/yaasyzr3 |
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AlanMcR
Expert
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: US, CA, Los Altos
Vehicle(s): G300DT E300DT 230SL
Posts: 3500
| Re: Nissens Radiator on a G500 ?
DUTCH - 11/17/2018 11:26 AM Please report back what you find. Thanks. Just bought one off of Rock Auto. Arrived looking perfect. I needed a new one since the seal around the oil cooler nipple in the driver's side tank was starting to leak.
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H1LM002G55
Expert
Date registered: Mar 2010
Location: S Florida / Geneva / Jeddah
Vehicle(s): 500 GE, G55, LM002, H1
Posts: 1796
| Re: Nissens Radiator on a G500 ?
Did you save your old one as a spare and didn't you have one rebuilt at one point? |
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AlanMcR
Expert
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: US, CA, Los Altos
Vehicle(s): G300DT E300DT 230SL
Posts: 3500
| Re: Nissens Radiator on a G500 ?
H1LM002G55 - 1/13/2019 2:00 PM Did you save your old one as a spare and didn't you have one rebuilt at one point? Nope. Still running on the original radiator for now. Leaks and all. As long as I drive it with the radiator cap loose it doesn't leak enough to worry about. We've had a cluster of car issues with the other cars. The most time consuming was a (plugged) underhood drain in our E300 that backed up water into the cabin. Came back from a trip to find the driver's side of the interior 5" deep in water. Pulled the interior out and found that the sound foam molded to the carpet is 4" thick in places. It holds an astounding amount of water. Anyway, it is sitting in the car repair bay of our garage.
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H1LM002G55
Expert
Date registered: Mar 2010
Location: S Florida / Geneva / Jeddah
Vehicle(s): 500 GE, G55, LM002, H1
Posts: 1796
| Re: Nissens Radiator on a G500 ?
I hear you, buddy. The joys of vintage vehicle ownership.
If it is the foam, I believe they mold it to a rubber acoustic barrier and that it is thus not easily replaceable.
If it is a cotton recycled fiber material and you want to replace it, I can help you with acquiring the material. Was it the condensate drain that backed up from the HVAC?
Edited by H1LM002G55 1/14/2019 12:02 PM
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gerryvz
Extreme Veteran
Date registered: Apr 2014
Location: Annapolis, MD
Vehicle(s): 1994 G320, 1989 560SEC, 1994 E500 (W124)
Posts: 336
| Re: Nissens Radiator on a G500 ?
I am getting ready to order a new Nissens radiator for my G320, per Dutch's notes above. Confirmed with the EPC that it is the correct radiator. |
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AlanMcR
Expert
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: US, CA, Los Altos
Vehicle(s): G300DT E300DT 230SL
Posts: 3500
| Re: Nissens Radiator on a G500 ?
Water got into the area around the brake booster. Due to a plugged drain near the upper a-arm mount it piled up until it got to a cable pass through into the cabin. There it dribbled down under the carpet. The carpet has molded on foam blobs. Most are dry now. Still working on the rest. It will be impossible to remove all of the water. I'm thinking of holing the underfloor duct to the back seat area in order force hot air into the cavity after it is reassembled. It is a real mess. The car is otherwise in great shape.
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4x4abc
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: La Paz, Baja California, Mexico
Vehicle(s): 02 G500
| RE: Nissens Radiator on a G500 ?
checked the left side connector on the Nissens today. It looks like it is about to damage to the large hydraulic line from the PS.
May have to cut off that part.
pics tomorrow
Edited by 4x4abc 2/18/2019 10:34 AM
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4x4abc
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: La Paz, Baja California, Mexico
Vehicle(s): 02 G500
| RE: Nissens Radiator on a G500 ?
here is the interference between the Nissens spare inlet and the PS hose
had it capped with plastic but is shows wear
inlet has to go
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DUTCH
Administrator Doppelgänger
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: US, GA, Atlanta
Vehicle(s): 2015 Audi Q7 3.0 TDI,2018 Sprinter
Posts: 9963
| RE: Nissens Radiator on a G500 ?
Harald, How has the radiator been cooling your truck? The Nissens core is supposed to be better than the Behr core. Curious. |
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4x4abc
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: La Paz, Baja California, Mexico
Vehicle(s): 02 G500
| RE: Nissens Radiator on a G500 ?
no complaints
no complaints with the Behr before either |
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paulunm
Veteran
Date registered: Jan 2015
Location: Los Angeles
Vehicle(s): 2000 G500
Posts: 124
| Re: Nissens Radiator on a G500 ?
The factory Behr doesn't have this spare inlet, correct? |
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