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FACELIFT BUMPER UPDATE - FRONT
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Posted 6/14/2006 7:42 AM
pleubner



Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Basel, Switzerland
Vehicle(s): ML270CDI Brabus-W163,SL55 AMG-R230,ML320 CDI-W164
500
FACELIFT BUMPER UPDATE - FRONT

FREDERIC'S MY02 FRONT BUMPER UPDATE!. 

Well , this must be the worst workmanship I ever saw on an ML! At least the measurements will help everyone else looking to do an update to MY98-01 Vehicles.....

 

 





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#22819
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Posted 6/14/2006 7:45 AM
pleubner



Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Basel, Switzerland
Vehicle(s): ML270CDI Brabus-W163,SL55 AMG-R230,ML320 CDI-W164
500
RE: FACELIFT BUMPER UPDATE - FRONT

Here is troy's update

 

 





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#22820 - in reply to #22819
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Posted 6/14/2006 11:57 PM
redeye



Date registered: Jun 2006
Location: Calgary
Vehicle(s):
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RE: FACELIFT BUMPER UPDATE - FRONT

Besides the shocking metalwork, the actual bumper fit is incredible - that gap is tighter that any W163 I've seen: even the facelift bumpers have a fairly substantial gap. I wonder how that works out with body flex and rubbing the bumper vs fender...

Unfortunately, the bodyshop that fitted mine cut off the bumper to fender mounting tab on the bumper: saw it when I picked it up, I wasn't happy about it but the bumper fits with a smaller gap than the originals so I left it at that.



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#23202 - in reply to #22819
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Posted 6/15/2006 12:31 PM
pleubner



Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Basel, Switzerland
Vehicle(s): ML270CDI Brabus-W163,SL55 AMG-R230,ML320 CDI-W164
500
RE: FACELIFT BUMPER UPDATE - FRONT

redeye - 6/14/2006 5:57 AM Besides the shocking metalwork, the actual bumper fit is incredible - that gap is tighter that any W163 I've seen: even the facelift bumpers have a fairly substantial gap. I wonder how that works out with body flex and rubbing the bumper vs fender... Unfortunately, the bodyshop that fitted mine cut off the bumper to fender mounting tab on the bumper: saw it when I picked it up, I wasn't happy about it but the bumper fits with a smaller gap than the originals so I left it at that.

 

Agreed!  I wouldn't rely on my post above , but consider it as a guide when relocating the brackets!. I wouldn't remove the old brackets , but make new ones, and  bolt them to the bumper as troy suggested , marking the postion on the cross member.... this is gives no room for error!.

 

 

 

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Posted 6/15/2006 1:07 PM
Mklasse

Date registered: Dec 1899
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RE: FACELIFT BUMPER UPDATE - FRONT

redeye - 6/15/2006 10:57 AM Besides the shocking metalwork, the actual bumper fit is incredible - that gap is tighter that any W163 I've seen: even the facelift bumpers have a fairly substantial gap. I wonder how that works out with body flex and rubbing the bumper vs fender....

If you put a thin felt tape between the bumper and fender, would be ok? my ML is the pre-facelifted one, and sometimes the gap annoys me.. but i try to live with it :P

I'm wondering what about the other cars that has tight gap between fenders and bumpers (body flex and rubbing wise).. cuz i've heard somewhere tighter gap = better quality? i could be wrong...

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Posted 6/15/2006 1:35 PM
pleubner



Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Basel, Switzerland
Vehicle(s): ML270CDI Brabus-W163,SL55 AMG-R230,ML320 CDI-W164
500
RE: FACELIFT BUMPER UPDATE - FRONT

I have to admit that I pressed the bumper hard up with my knee as I was lying on my back under the front to tighten the bolts from underneath.... probably could have made a much larger gap!

 

 

 

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Posted 6/15/2006 3:57 PM
alroumi

Date registered: Dec 1899
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Re: FACELIFT BUMPER UPDATE - FRONT

Thanks for sharing pleubner
#23461 - in reply to #22819
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Posted 6/16/2006 6:45 AM
pleubner



Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Basel, Switzerland
Vehicle(s): ML270CDI Brabus-W163,SL55 AMG-R230,ML320 CDI-W164
500
RE: FACELIFT BUMPER UPDATE - FRONT

Thanks ALROUMI, I hope to supply a little better detail in the future! .... and nicer pictures!.

 ... in the meantime here is the partnos, and summary of retrofit instructions.

 





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#23804 - in reply to #22819
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Posted 6/16/2006 12:10 PM
Mklasse

Date registered: Dec 1899
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RE: FACELIFT BUMPER UPDATE - FRONT

I'd definitely save the pictures for future refference if i'm going to do this mod.

I'm also wondering, what about the AMG bumpers? are they using the pre-facelifted or facelifted mounting positions?

Thanks Pleubner!

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Posted 6/16/2006 4:45 PM
pleubner



Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Basel, Switzerland
Vehicle(s): ML270CDI Brabus-W163,SL55 AMG-R230,ML320 CDI-W164
500
RE: FACELIFT BUMPER UPDATE - FRONT

I'm going to give you a tentative answer on the ml55 (AMG/STYLING bumpers).... Very detailed information will follow in the next few weeks!

There is no brackets , or bolts, or holes to relocate..... The ML55 was introduced in 2000 when the original bumper existed... To mount the front bumper you do however need 2 new vertical brackets. The side brackets have also changed, but you can use the old ones!.

... hang on ... I'm just reducing res on some pics ..... (I will make  photos of all the AMG parts soon)

 

 

#23969 - in reply to #23856
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Posted 6/16/2006 5:08 PM
pleubner



Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Basel, Switzerland
Vehicle(s): ML270CDI Brabus-W163,SL55 AMG-R230,ML320 CDI-W164
500
ML55 (AMG) BUMPER UPDATE - FRONT

Ok lets start with the way the AMG bumper gets mounted ..... It doesnt get bolted on to the cross member directly. There is a plastic inside piece that fits into the bumper cover this plastic, then both the plastic piece and the bumper cover get mounted onto those new vertical brackets....

 

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#23983 - in reply to #22819
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Posted 6/16/2006 5:19 PM
pleubner



Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Basel, Switzerland
Vehicle(s): ML270CDI Brabus-W163,SL55 AMG-R230,ML320 CDI-W164
500
RE: FACELIFT BUMPER UPDATE - FRONT

When I measure the distances between the upper 2 holes of the Original bumper cover, and compare it to the AMG cover , they are exactly the same distance....

 





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Posted 6/16/2006 5:22 PM
pleubner



Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Basel, Switzerland
Vehicle(s): ML270CDI Brabus-W163,SL55 AMG-R230,ML320 CDI-W164
500
RE: FACELIFT BUMPER UPDATE - FRONT

Now to the vertical brackets you also need.....  they are made of heavy metal!.

 

 





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Posted 6/16/2006 5:30 PM
pleubner



Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Basel, Switzerland
Vehicle(s): ML270CDI Brabus-W163,SL55 AMG-R230,ML320 CDI-W164
500
ML55 (AMG) BUMPER UPDATE - FRONT

... now for the new plastic side brackets .... (like I said earlier , you can reuse your old ones if you want to save some money)

 

 





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#24005 - in reply to #22819
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Posted 6/16/2006 5:37 PM
pleubner



Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Basel, Switzerland
Vehicle(s): ML270CDI Brabus-W163,SL55 AMG-R230,ML320 CDI-W164
500
RE: FACELIFT BUMPER UPDATE - FRONT

Stay tuned for more bumper bedtime stories soon...  :biggrin:
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Posted 6/18/2006 5:01 AM
pleubner



Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Basel, Switzerland
Vehicle(s): ML270CDI Brabus-W163,SL55 AMG-R230,ML320 CDI-W164
500
RE: FACELIFT BUMPER UPDATE - FRONT

This is an example of a totally useless post from the perspective of sharing your update info.

Anyone viewing this get's ZERO uselfull info!....

http://bear00001.tripod.com/upgrade/0.htm

If I printed off this information and wanted to do an update myself, I might as well wipe my ass with the paper the next time I go to the toilet, it would the only usefull thing to do with it!

I don't think you guys would find it much fun if I started to just post "before" & "after" pics of my mods/repairs?....

Ok now I've let off some steam .... and my blood pressure is back to normal .....

 

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