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thairish
Date registered: Jun 2006
Location: hk/th
Vehicle(s): 461: 230ge/swb & g300cdi/lwb
| 461 rough road shcks
planning to replace original/stock shocks soon, so i contacted a trusted g parts house often recommended here to get a quote. here is what they came back with:
"It appears your truck is different. I looked at shocks for a 460 and a 463 and none of the part numbers are close. That does not mean they will not fit. I do not know which Bilstein to tell you is right. The shocks from Mercedes for your truck are list as a standard p/n and a p/n for rough roads."
i think the p/n for rough roads is what i need, mainly because of this on my data card: Z11 export special version, for roads in bad condition. vin #: wdb46123827099597
just looking for a second or third opinion to be sure i get it right. any help or even a part # would be appreciated.
cheers,
dd
p.s.: the trusted vendor i contacted initially actually referred me to another vendor that offers better pricing -- pretty big of them. |
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Mud Maniac
Date registered: Dec 1899
Location:
Vehicle(s):
| RE: 461 rough road shcks
Hello Thairish
You need the Sachs HD shocks to go with the set of springs that were fitted. You have red srings on the front and white springs on the rear. These are softer ride and make the vehicle sit slighty higher when unladen, but they need to be fitted with harder shocks to dampen out the greater recoil of the softer springs when going over bumpy roads. The MB part numbers for the shocks are:
A0043260400 Rear Shock
A0053234200 Front Shock
Obviously you'll need two of each. 
If you look on the ZF Sachs on line catalog you can see the shocks say they are "for vehicles with off road suspension", plus I checked in my EPC with your VIN.
http://webcat.zf-trading.com/index.asp?MODE=&EINSPNR_TYP=32&PICTO_S...
(You can select the language at the bottom) |
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thairish
Date registered: Jun 2006
Location: hk/th
Vehicle(s): 461: 230ge/swb & g300cdi/lwb
| RE: 461 rough road shcks
hey mud.
great info and great website - exactly what i was looking for. many thanks. hopefully this can be of use to others as well -- maybe someone looking to replicate this 'Z11 export special version, for roads in bad condition' factory suspension package.
since you seem like you know your stuff, any insight into exactly what my transmission number (717443 26 757751) means? it's a 5-speed manual but not listed on harald's list, so i am interested in finding out more about it and what may be different. any light you could shed would be appreciated.
cheers,
dd |
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460332
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Europe
Vehicle(s):
| Re: 461 rough road shcks
Why not Koni damper? I have only good ecperience with them. Adjustable, very popular. etc.
http://www.koni4x4.com/products.php?todo=search&category=25&brand=1... |
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hakkaloong
Member
Date registered: Jul 2006
Location: malaysia
Vehicle(s): '94 290GD
Posts: 29
| Re: 461 rough road shcks
I too fitted Koni heavy track adjustable shocks front & rear to my G. Better drive and reliable. Intend to replace tired coil springs with King springs KMRR110 & KMFR109. I got this part code from the search in old BW thread. Any one has comments on these or shall I stick to MB original? Stiff price MB coil springs compared with King's...
Cheers,
KLHoh
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4x4abc
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: La Paz, Baja California, Mexico
Vehicle(s): 02 G500
| RE: 461 rough road shcks
dd,
your transmission is on my list - why would it not be?
GL 76/27 P5 717.43/44
http://www.4x4abc.com/G-Class/trans.html
Harald |
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thairish
Date registered: Jun 2006
Location: hk/th
Vehicle(s): 461: 230ge/swb & g300cdi/lwb
| RE: 461 rough road shcks
thanks harald. exactly what i was thinking - why would you not have it? not sure how you figured out that is what i have since the numbers are different, but i will take your word for it for now 'til i can get underneath to have a look for meself.
460332 & hakkaloong: thanks for the koni suggestion. i was leaning toward sticking to original mb parts (bilstein or sachs), but will look into koni further before making the call.
cheers,
dd |
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kerry460
Elite Veteran
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: tasmania australia
Vehicle(s): 1984 300GD LWB WAGEN
Posts: 611
| RE: 461 rough road shcks
G,,day the king springs post probably came from me .i am very happy with them .i am using konis .adjusted to suit the ride i want. cheers.kerry. |
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4x4abc
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: La Paz, Baja California, Mexico
Vehicle(s): 02 G500
| RE: 461 rough road shcks
dd,
717443 26 757751 = 717.44 = 717.43/44 = GL 76/27
Harald |
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petermerle
Expert
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Cape Town ( deep south )
Vehicle(s): W460 *1, W123 *2, W124
Posts: 1315
| RE: 461 rough road shcks
Those are the standard shocks for a 461.238. Thairish vehicle has SA28356 /01 "Shock absorvber bad roads" listed on datacard , however when you select that special version no parts are shown or listed on EPC. Its very strange - anyone shed some light?
PEter |
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thairish
Date registered: Jun 2006
Location: hk/th
Vehicle(s): 461: 230ge/swb & g300cdi/lwb
| RE: 461 rough road shcks
good puzzle, eh?
peter's comment similar to what i first reported, so probably not wrong. i also think there is some validity to what mud found. have to keep digging...
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EuroTruck
Extreme Veteran
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Oakwood, Georgia - USA
Vehicle(s): 2012 Audi A4 Avant S-Line, 2015 Ridley NOAH SL
Posts: 518
| RE: 461 rough road shcks
Mud Maniac's numbers are the correct ones for the SA. -SP |
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hakkaloong
Member
Date registered: Jul 2006
Location: malaysia
Vehicle(s): '94 290GD
Posts: 29
| RE: 461 rough road shcks
Thanks Kerry! Will contact the King springs dealer here...
Cheers,
KL
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