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G-Man
Date registered: Dec 1899
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| No G320CDI for the US ! ?
Got this from DC Berlin today:
"Habe zwischenzeitlich mit Stuttgart gesprochen. Die haben mir bestätigt,
dass der G320CDI nicht für die USA vorgesehen ist. Ob und wann es evtl passiert,
konnte mir auch keiner sagen."
Translation: In the meantime, I've talked with Stuttgart. They confirmed that the G320CDI isn't planned for [export to] the USA. Whether and when this might ever happen, no one could say.
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dai
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Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Oregon USA
Vehicle(s): 300GD 300TD BMW R100RS Landini 80F
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| Re: No G320CDI for the US ! ?
Now that we have true low sulfur diesel here in the States it will be much easier for Diesel machines to pass emission standards.
If the G320CDI was imported to the USA they will sell all they feel like producing I would think. MBUSA probably only wants the luxury leather electric chrome models in the showroom. Many of us use these for their intended purpose. A utilitarian low zoot machine would have an instant following. Until then we keep our 20+ year old fantastic 460's in tight repair.
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Braingears
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Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: St Petersburg, FL
Vehicle(s): G320 & ML320
Posts: 1450
| Re: No G320CDI for the US ! ?
I would be happy if the sold it along side the Sprinter Vans... |
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Adoni
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Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Sacramento, CA
Vehicle(s): '00 G500, '15 C300 4Matic, '06 L322 G4
Posts: 1283
| Re: No G320CDI for the US ! ?
The car magazines all say that the 320CDI motor is coming to the U.S. in the GL class, the ML and in a new Jeep vehicle, however, the motor is currently still only 45 state legal, the five states it doesnt qualify in are Kaliforniastan, New Yorkistan, Pennsylvaniastan, New Jerseystan and Maine... |
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Roch207
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Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Palmetto State
Vehicle(s): 2005 E320 CDI, 2010 Silverado 2500HD
Posts: 3749
| Re: No G320CDI for the US ! ?
**The E320 CDI Sedan does not meet the emissions requirements of California, Maine, Massachusetts, New York or Vermont and is not available in these states.
You were close. I have brought the salesperson at our local MB dealer (in RI) to tears many times begging him to sell us a new CDI. I have patiently waited for the G320CDI to come to market. I was willing to rent an apartment in Rhode Island just to get one. My dealer was willing to demo one for 7500 miles for me. (You can buy a used diesel in Mass so long as it has 7500 miles)
I am thoroughly disappointed in DC's decision. My wife does not like the GL, nor the ML. She wants a G. We may have to make do with another E class.
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tclynes
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| Re: No G320CDI for the US ! ?
i am currently in minnesota and how a 320cdi cannot pass the tests and half the diesel trucks on the road here can i do not know!
surely with the ever increasing prices of petrol, economical and powerful diesels are needed! this is the first time i have come to the us and seen so many car makers advertising better fuel consumption, but 30mpg highway isnt really great as ford are advertising, the e320cdi gets 58 mpg out of town, this would be a super strong selling point for mercedes especially when highway performance is said to be on par with at least a 500!
Tom
p.s after just having to spend 8 hours in a navigator give me a g anyday! |
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03-Gwagen
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Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Western Pennsylvania
Vehicle(s): CLK63 Black Series, 2018 G63, 2016 GLE300d
Posts: 888
| Re: No G320CDI for the US ! ?
tclynes - 8/8/2006 5:51 PM
, the e320cdi gets 58 mpg out of town
A friend of mine has an 05 e diesel. She would be lucky to get in the mid thirties on the highway.
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cyntaxx
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Date registered: Aug 2006
Location: Indianapolis, IN
Vehicle(s): 2002 G500
Posts: 248
| Re: No G320CDI for the US ! ?
I'd love to see a nice turbodiesel under the hood of a G that's meant for this side of the pond! |
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Adoni
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Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Sacramento, CA
Vehicle(s): '00 G500, '15 C300 4Matic, '06 L322 G4
Posts: 1283
| Re: No G320CDI for the US ! ?
My local dealer makes a killing doing the 7500 mile demo thing and selling e320's in California, they have a dealership in Reno Nevada so it isn't too hard for them, in fact what often happens is that they put dealer plates on the car and actually put the miles on here in California, but if anyone is reading this that cares about that kinda stuff ignore it I'm lying I swear!!! lol All I need to have happen is for MB to bring a diesel G to the US and I'll be waiting in line to buy my Nevada registered G... |
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Braingears
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Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: St Petersburg, FL
Vehicle(s): G320 & ML320
Posts: 1450
| Re: No G320CDI for the US ! ?
I wonder if they can be imported personally. The engine is already in the sedans, and the truck is already crash tested. In Florida, there is NO EMMISIONS.
If I could only be so lucky... |
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500
Date registered: Dec 1899
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| Re: No G320CDI for the US ! ?
Fact is, I have been saying that the G in diesel would not come. Price, 45 state legal issue, and 09' regs by the feds..! Unfortunately the G/D won't be here. VERY STUPID in my opinion. As voiced by others as well..! In case one wonders, I have this info from a very good source in the factory level. |
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Roch207
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Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Palmetto State
Vehicle(s): 2005 E320 CDI, 2010 Silverado 2500HD
Posts: 3749
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BrentG500
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Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: US, TX, Dallas
Vehicle(s): 2004 G500 (gone)
Posts: 449
| Re: No G320CDI for the US ! ?
Braingears - 8/9/2006 4:35 AM
I wonder if they can be imported personally. The engine is already in the sedans, and the truck is already crash tested. In Florida, there is NO EMMISIONS.
If I could only be so lucky...
I don't know much of what's going on with the G anymore. One minute the dealer says, diesel G's will be available only as an order from the plant, the next minute he says diesel will not be available for '07, then he says that BlueTec for the G will be ready in Feb 2008 and he's not sure if it will be available in the USA.
"Why??" I asked.
"Pricing cannot be agreed upon."
"Name your price."
"No price has been set and it's not certain if anyone will see the diesel G."
"Germany will"
laughs - "That's Germany"
"Damn it."
More  Long story short: I'm tired of waiting for the diesel G. I'm throwing in the towel; it's time to move on. MB cannot agree on price and cannot adapt to emissions standards, and it's plain to see that they don't care about the customer.
If it ever comes, I hope that I am fortunate enough to buy one. If it doesn't come, then so be it.
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Braingears
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Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: St Petersburg, FL
Vehicle(s): G320 & ML320
Posts: 1450
| Re: No G320CDI for the US ! ?
Maybe we can ask Dr. Z |
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T.Schuhe
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Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Olympia, Washington State, USA
Vehicle(s): 460 1985 LWB 300GD five speed
Posts: 711
| Re: No G320CDI for the US ! ?
In the US, for now and perhaps for ever, we are left with the warm embrace and smell of bio burning diesels from a long-ago era. I am now running B-99 and feel very happy to be driving this old legend, made very modern again by its ability to be unplugged from oil wells and Panzers to keep in moving.
But, I do think Dr. Z should hear from us. Short of building them here, however, the market analysis must have indicated that the 320 diesel is just not profitable, for whatever cluster of reasons. I still think they could sell these in Worker form, through Freightliner dealers, and have a strong following for the next 4 plus years of the G's life.
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BrentG500
Extreme Veteran
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: US, TX, Dallas
Vehicle(s): 2004 G500 (gone)
Posts: 449
| Re: No G320CDI for the US ! ?
T.Schuhe - 8/12/2006 9:02 AM
But, I do think Dr. Z should hear from us. Short of building them here, however, the market analysis must have indicated that the 320 diesel is just not profitable, for whatever cluster of reasons. I still think they could sell these in Worker form, through Freightliner dealers, and have a strong following for the next 4 plus years of the G's life.
After those Ask Dr. Z commercials, I did write *another* letter under the standard Dr. Z form. Unfortunately, I was shuffled around the company and received an email stating the obvious, "please visit mbusa and contact them for any questions or comments related to Mercedes products."
Thomas, I think you're right. Your idea is wonderful. But unfortunately Mercedes just doesn't see it this way and will probably never see it this way. Too many US barriers would make it too much of a hassle for MB. I guess it's time to taste the bitter medicine and realize that to MB, we're just not worth the extra trouble. |
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Merz-Ben
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Date registered: Aug 2006
Location: Floyds Knobs, IN 47119
Vehicle(s): 230G, U1200, U1250 DoKa, U1300L, U1500, U1700, 416
Posts: 377
| RE: No G320CDI for the US ! ?
Looks like some people who want a new G diesel will just have to buy a new G500 and a new E320 diesel and combine the two. If I had the funds, I'd do it. You must understand that I'm crazy when it comes to hybriding things though!  |
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folidol
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Date registered: Jul 2006
Location: NYC
Vehicle(s): Bombardier subway car
Posts: 151
| Re: No G320CDI for the US ! ?
Who's Dr. Z? |
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Roch207
Expert
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Palmetto State
Vehicle(s): 2005 E320 CDI, 2010 Silverado 2500HD
Posts: 3749
| Re: No G320CDI for the US ! ?
President of Daimler Chrysler. He is doing an ad campaign on the Chrysler side where reporters, kids and customers ask him questions about Chryslers, Dodges and Jeeps. He has a German accent and a big moustache they make fun of in the ads by asking him if it is real. |
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