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Photo DIY- M110.994 Mixture Adjustment
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Posted 6/1/2013 5:35 PM
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Photo DIY- M110.994 Mixture Adjustment

The *LAST* Component to be Performed During a Routine Tune-Up, is the Mixture Adjustment. Again, this is a "Every 12,000 Miles" Procedure.

Be Sure you are Working in a Well-Ventilated Shop.

Also be sure to Calibrate the CO Tester with the Vehicle Well out of the Way.

The Gunson Tester is very "Sensitive", so make only Small Adjustments, and wait Several Minutes in-between any "Tweeking".

2,0% In the Open Air (Not Direct Wind, though) is the Goal for Calibration. Follow the Gunson Instructions.



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Posted 6/2/2013 3:57 PM
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Re: Photo DIY- M110.994 Mixture Adjustment

Nice write up.
After the CO adjustment, probably you idle rpm is changed and should be adjusted.
But following above steps, you work yourself to the correct idle + correct mixture.

Btw, what CO measurements did you find on the higher rpm's (say 3000rpm)?

bram
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Posted 6/2/2013 4:19 PM
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Re: Photo DIY- M110.994 Mixture Adjustment

bram_r - 6/2/2013 3:57 PM


After the CO adjustment, probably you idle rpm is changed and should be adjusted.


Btw, what CO measurements did you find on the higher rpm's (say 3000rpm)?

bram


Yes, I double checked everything (CO and Idle Speed) as a final product after the closing plugs.

No, I did not do a "high-speed" CO check. I do not have a "Spec" for the High-Speed. Only at "Idle".
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Posted 6/2/2013 4:51 PM
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Re: Photo DIY- M110.994 Mixture Adjustment

Me neither, but I found the CO rising up to a few % CO at higher revs, of which I always wondered to be correct.
Just looking for some reference here.

At the time my 280GE had it's m110, I measured 5,5% CO @ 3000 rpm.
Always wondered about the increase in CO%, whereas these measurements on my motorbikes always showed some leaning out of the mixture going through the revs.

gr. Bram
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Posted 6/2/2013 5:08 PM
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Re: Photo DIY- M110.994 Mixture Adjustment

My understanding is that the mixture will LEAN itself with increasing RPM.

What confuses me, though, is "How can the Carbon Monoxide level be *LOWER* in the Exhaust, than in the Fresh Air???" (1,0% vs. 2,0%)
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Posted 6/3/2013 12:47 PM
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RE: Photo DIY- M110.994 Mixture Adjustment

The small hex screw next to the fuel distributor only adjusts fuel mixture at idle, the fuel mixture adjustment for all other engine speeds is performed at the warm up regulator...














...with a hammer. http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w126-s-se-sec-sel-sd/1372083-warm-u...



Edited by chris505 6/3/2013 12:49 PM
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Posted 6/3/2013 4:15 PM
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Re: Photo DIY- M110.994 Mixture Adjustment

Chris, Wow, thanks for those links....

Looks like I have another round of "Testing" to do...

I did not see, though, any "CO-Testing for other than Idle Speed" references in the Links.

I guess one Ass-u-Me's if the Control Pressures are Correct (Cold and Hot States), and the Idle CO is in Spec, then Life is Beautiful?

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Posted 6/3/2013 6:29 PM
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G-AMG - 6/3/2013 2:15 PM

...I guess one Ass-u-Me's if the Control Pressures are Correct (Cold and Hot States), and the Idle CO is in Spec, then Life is Beautiful?



Bingo. Too many variables in the equasion to predict right or wrong by a CO measurement at an up-scale RPM. Also good to note to make sure your car hasn't been fitted with a catatlytic converter before you try the CO setting, since some did have them added when federalized or thereafter.

Thanks for the link Chris!

Also Pat, are you doing some gear pulling? Or is that open cabinet just some sick-o tool porn in the background?



You know posting things like that will only lead to something like requests to show us a DIY on setting up the rear brake bias valve using the 4-gauge brake pressure box, if that's what I see at the upper left.

All the best,

-Dave G.
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Posted 6/3/2013 8:14 PM
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I see tool porn... not doubt about it

I wanted to mention a possible pitfall. I had tuned my M110 with the gunson, and made the adjustments at about 8000 feet above sea level. The young man who took it out of Colorado to sea level experienced overheating and eventually a failed headgasket. I tried to warn him that the mixture would be way too lean at sea level.

Setting it in Texas shouldn't cause any problems though.
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Posted 6/3/2013 10:54 PM
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hipine - 6/3/2013 6:29 PM

You know posting things like that will only lead to something like requests to show us a DIY on setting up the rear brake bias valve using the 4-gauge brake pressure box, if that's what I see at the upper left.

-Dave G.


I guess you blinked and missed it:

http://www.pointedthree.com/disc/forums/showthread.php?tid=20554&po...
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Posted 6/3/2013 11:00 PM
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Brent - 6/3/2013 8:14 PM

I see tool porn... not doubt about it

I wanted to mention a possible pitfall. I had tuned my M110 with the gunson, and made the adjustments at about 8000 feet above sea level. The young man who took it out of Colorado to sea level experienced overheating and eventually a failed headgasket. I tried to warn him that the mixture would be way too lean at sea level.

Setting it in Texas shouldn't cause any problems though. ;)


Yes, I remember Hipine mentioning he had to "Tweek" his Mixture when the Majatma descends from on High, to visit his in-laws down here in my neck of the woods.

I'll try Monkey-ing around with the Pressure Testing, and let you guys know...

Oh, And I'll try to remember to put a "Fig Leaf" over my Pullers next time.... the Oil Temp Probe is long, and won't fit anywhere else.

Edited by G-AMG 6/3/2013 11:03 PM
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Posted 6/4/2013 1:07 AM
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G-AMG - 6/3/2013 8:54 PM

I guess you blinked and missed it:

http://www.pointedthree.com/disc/forums/showthread.php?tid=20554&po...


I did miss it! Thanks for sharing. Cool stuff.

-Dave G.

Edited by hipine 6/4/2013 1:09 AM
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G-AMG - 6/3/2013 9:00 PM

..Oh, And I'll try to remember to put a "Fig Leaf" over my Pullers next time........


Yes please do. We know, you're a doctor and see that kind of stuff all the time and so don't even "see" it anymore. But for heaven's sake take it easy on the rest of us!

-Dave G.
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