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G-AMG
G-Class DIY Host
Date registered: May 2006
Location: South Texas
Vehicle(s): '04 G55, '80 280GE, '99 S420, '98 E320, 2011 E350
| PHOTO DIY- EXTRACTION OIL CHANGE
Hi Folks,
I know most G owners are more mechanically inclined than most, so this is probably a silly post, BUT maybe for those few who may be reluctant to DIY, I thought I would show a clean and easy way of changing your own oil. Sooo, this is meant for the rank novice. For those who have done it a million times...well, don't waste your time reading this.
I am anal-compulsive, and religiously change oil at 5,000 Mi intervals, with Mobil 1
and have cars in the "fleet" running brand new after 100K miles. Luck? Maybe.
Anyway, enjoy.
The usual CYA blah, blah stuff. I am not claiming any expertise. My projects are based on my interpretation of the WIS procedures. Do work at your own discretion.
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W5YK
Extreme Veteran
Date registered: May 2006
Location: San Diego
Vehicle(s): 2002 G500, Unimog U2450,
Posts: 543
| RE: PHOTO DIY- EXTRACTION OIL CHANGE
Excellent photos G-AMG. Not a silly post at all, quite the opposite. That is just the kind of thing most of us like to see.
Where did you get those nice Hazet tools from? I'm jealous. |
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DUTCH
Administrator Doppelgänger
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: US, GA, Atlanta
Vehicle(s): 2015 Audi Q7 3.0 TDI,2018 Sprinter
Posts: 9963
| RE: PHOTO DIY- EXTRACTION OIL CHANGE
G-AMG - 3/20/2007 10:18 PM
Hi Folks,
I know most G owners are more mechanically inclined than most, so this is probably a silly post, BUT maybe for those few who may be reluctant to DIY, I thought I would show a clean and easy way of changing your own oil. Sooo, this is meant for the rank novice. For those who have done it a million times...well, don't waste your time reading this.
I am anal-compulsive, and religiously change oil at 5,000 Mi intervals, with Mobil 1
and have cars in the "fleet" running brand new after 100K miles. Luck? Maybe.
Anyway, enjoy.
Good article. The filter difference is that your new one is made by Mann and the dark topped one you took out is by Knecht. Both appear to be the new "fleece type". Personally, I prefer the Knect filters; but when you buy the MB branded box, you get what they put in it - low bidder.
My choice for the vacuum pump is this one:
http://www.thetoolwarehouse.net/shop/MIT-7201.html
It holds 8.8 liters and is far less work than the Topsider you tried, too.
While I do use of the Mobil 1 oils in my ML320CDI - since it and a Shell product are the only oils officially approved for the OM642 engine, I wouldn't put anything other than Redline in my G500; but in these cases of still being under warranty, you gotta go with what they tell you.
Strong agreement on the 5,000 mile changes with the filter! |
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DUTCH
Administrator Doppelgänger
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: US, GA, Atlanta
Vehicle(s): 2015 Audi Q7 3.0 TDI,2018 Sprinter
Posts: 9963
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W5YK - 3/20/2007 10:40 PM
Where did you get those nice Hazet tools from? I'm jealous.
Samstag Sales in Tennessee has the Hazet tools, complete with high prices and an attitude.
These folks are much friendlier to work with; and their prices, in my experience, are significantly better:
http://www.zelenda.com/Hazet/hazet.html |
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KERR
Date registered: Dec 1899
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| Re: PHOTO DIY- EXTRACTION OIL CHANGE
looks good. i might just have to get one of those suckers things.
I also need to gun some slugde / valve cleaner in mine... when you take the cap off to ad oil it all sludgie looking inside there. Kinda makes me mad dads old 98 SL500 looks brand new when you take that piece off. Wonder if it has something to do with the now 10K miles services vs his 3K mile... I have been doing mine at 5K but its still there.
While on this topic of changing fluids... have you dont a trans and axle fluid change? |
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DUTCH
Administrator Doppelgänger
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: US, GA, Atlanta
Vehicle(s): 2015 Audi Q7 3.0 TDI,2018 Sprinter
Posts: 9963
| Re: PHOTO DIY- EXTRACTION OIL CHANGE
KERR - 3/21/2007 9:44 AM
While on this topic of changing fluids... have you dont a trans and axle fluid change?
I've done all four - transmission, transfer case, front axle and rear axle. |
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G-AMG
G-Class DIY Host
Date registered: May 2006
Location: South Texas
Vehicle(s): '04 G55, '80 280GE, '99 S420, '98 E320, 2011 E350
| RE: PHOTO DIY- EXTRACTION OIL CHANGE
Dutch,
Thanx for clearing up the difference on the filters. The Knecht filter has a different Part#, AND has a "Lip" on either end. |
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hus55
Expert
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: north cyprus,lapta.
Vehicle(s): 300GDS, G300 LONG,300GDT CLK55 AMG CAB.
Posts: 2230
| RE: PHOTO DIY- EXTRACTION OIL CHANGE
great step by step photos G-AMG 
you have given me inspiration to chang the oil in my CLK55 AMG 
I have never seen that manual pump out system before dutch,great piece of kit  does that mean removing the oil drain plug is a thing of the past  ( i have alot to learn).
my AMG is due for a service and i dread to think the cost.icould however pay my little girl £1 an hour to help me!!
plus an xbox and mountain bike and playstation........ 
great info anyhow.is that the same engine as mine though? mine has no komressor(no clk came with them at all) |
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JamesG
Regular
Date registered: May 2006
Location: Conifer, Colorado
Vehicle(s): 2011 G550, 2000 L.C.,1997 L.C.1987 FJ60
Posts: 98
| Re: PHOTO DIY- EXTRACTION OIL CHANGE
G-AMG, Dutch,
To both, thank-you for the useful info. For me, photographs are great learning tools. Pun intended. Great way to save on labor costs, and to "bond" with the "G" |
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DUTCH
Administrator Doppelgänger
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: US, GA, Atlanta
Vehicle(s): 2015 Audi Q7 3.0 TDI,2018 Sprinter
Posts: 9963
| RE: PHOTO DIY- EXTRACTION OIL CHANGE
G-AMG - 3/21/2007 10:45 AM
Dutch,
Thanx for clearing up the difference on the filters. The Knecht filter has a different Part#, AND has a "Lip" on either end.
If you look closely, you'll see that there is a matching grove for those lips, both on the inside of the filter cover and down in the mount on the engine. It's one of the reasons I like the Knecht filters better. I feel that they achieve a better seal. No hard evidence to support that - just subjective observation. |
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DUTCH
Administrator Doppelgänger
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: US, GA, Atlanta
Vehicle(s): 2015 Audi Q7 3.0 TDI,2018 Sprinter
Posts: 9963
| RE: PHOTO DIY- EXTRACTION OIL CHANGE
hus55 - 3/21/2007 11:54 AM
great step by step photos G-AMG
you have given me inspiration to chang the oil in my CLK55 AMG
I have never seen that manual pump out system before dutch,great piece of kit does that mean removing the oil drain plug is a thing of the past
If you check the WIS, you'll see that MB has been using the vacuum extraction method for a long time. It's a whole lot less messy than using the drain plug. |
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G-AMG
G-Class DIY Host
Date registered: May 2006
Location: South Texas
Vehicle(s): '04 G55, '80 280GE, '99 S420, '98 E320, 2011 E350
| Re: PHOTO DIY- EXTRACTION OIL CHANGE
HUS55,
Wow! What high priced child labour you have! My two assistants settled for a hug and a kiss on the forehead. I got off easy! |
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G-AMG
G-Class DIY Host
Date registered: May 2006
Location: South Texas
Vehicle(s): '04 G55, '80 280GE, '99 S420, '98 E320, 2011 E350
| Re: PHOTO DIY- EXTRACTION OIL CHANGE
Dutch,
How can you differentiate the Knecht without tearing open the box?? I can't find a different part number other than 000 180 26 09, only the different numbers ON the filter itself, 112 184 06 25(Knecht) VS. 112 184 05 25.
When I gave the guy the actual part numbers on the filters, he didn't know what I was talking about. He was only able to pull up the BOX part# 000 180 26 09.
Where do you source yours from?? |
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hus55
Expert
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: north cyprus,lapta.
Vehicle(s): 300GDS, G300 LONG,300GDT CLK55 AMG CAB.
Posts: 2230
| RE: PHOTO DIY- EXTRACTION OIL CHANGE
only joking!
my girl is an angel really.she loves getting her hands oily 
plus if she sees your kids helping you service you beast she will be on my case!
by the way does non-mb service hstory drop the value? |
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cazbenz
Date registered: Dec 1899
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| Re: PHOTO DIY- EXTRACTION OIL CHANGE
Thanks for the tips, I am a new owner of an 84 280G and will need to change the oil soon. I live in Ottawa , Canada. Does anyone know where I can order the parts from here?
Arthur |
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DUTCH
Administrator Doppelgänger
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: US, GA, Atlanta
Vehicle(s): 2015 Audi Q7 3.0 TDI,2018 Sprinter
Posts: 9963
| Re: PHOTO DIY- EXTRACTION OIL CHANGE
G-AMG - 3/21/2007 5:59 PM
Dutch,
How can you differentiate the Knecht without tearing open the box?? I can't find a different part number other than 000 180 26 09, only the different numbers ON the filter itself, 112 184 06 25(Knecht) VS. 112 184 05 25.
When I gave the guy the actual part numbers on the filters, he didn't know what I was talking about. He was only able to pull up the BOX part# 000 180 26 09.
Where do you source yours from??
I don't think you can differentiate from the box, although there probably is some sort of manufacturing code on there.
I get my Knecht filters from Europarts San Diego: http://www.europarts-sd.com/
Tell the owner Steve Schock that I referred you. He apologized very strongly when I last ordered because the Knecht were more expensive than the Mann. FWIW, the Knecht P/N is: OX 153/7 D. However, this number is for the older non-fleece style, so you might want to see if he has the newer now-recommended fleece filters. Knecht is part of the Mahle Gruppe |
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Maxwell Smart
Date registered: Dec 1899
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| Re: PHOTO DIY- EXTRACTION OIL CHANGE
Thanks I prefer pics too. Much easier to follow.
cazbenz - 3/22/2007 12:13 AM
Thanks for the tips, I am a new owner of an 84 280G and will need to change the oil soon. I live in Ottawa , Canada. Does anyone know where I can order the parts from here?
Arthur
Can't your local MB dealer help you? I've seen a few G500s in Ottawa so someone definitely has dealt with them unless they were brought up (or down) from either Toronto or Montreal.
By the way there is something very strange looking about where your doors meet the roof - too much space.
Edited by Maxwell Smart 3/21/2007 7:30 PM
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4x4abc
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: La Paz, Baja California, Mexico
Vehicle(s): 02 G500
| Re: PHOTO DIY- EXTRACTION OIL CHANGE
good eye Max! |
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Maxwell Smart
Date registered: Dec 1899
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| Re: PHOTO DIY- EXTRACTION OIL CHANGE
4x4abc - 3/22/2007 1:38 AM
good eye Max!
But the question is why is it like that - its not a double safari roof as far as I can tell (especially in Ottawa) and I don't think its armoured. The doors appear to be shorter than normal...
Sorry for going OT...
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4x4abc
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: La Paz, Baja California, Mexico
Vehicle(s): 02 G500
| Re: PHOTO DIY- EXTRACTION OIL CHANGE
looking at the rear vent opening and the relation to the window and doors - it seems to me that the window as well as the doors have been shortened. For whatever reason. Maybe Arthur can shed some light... |
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